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 Posted 12/22/2008  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, on the proof note the pointy P and the slant in the middle leg of the E:

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Were the matte proof dies recycled for business strikes like the Type B rev Washington quarters from the 50s and 60s? Of course, based on the matte proof mintages, there could not have been more than a handful of the matte dies produced in the first place(unlike the Washington quarter series).
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Bio its possible the dies were reused or even that all the dies produced for proof issues were not used for proof coins and were later used for business strike coins .


Thad those variations and a few others are the reason for my question ,, while the pictured coin has a slanted bar on the E in states and slightly slanted cross bars on the A's make the coin very interesting ,it was just a question and my way of putting info into the hands of the OP to further investigate his coin .

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 Posted 12/22/2008  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Still learning my proof lincolns from my business strikes, but I just wanted to say "Wowsers!" on the doubling on that reverse BadThad. The doubled lettering looks really cool!
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Serious thats not thads coin its a picture from the link I provided to a coin that was in Bowers and Merena auction .

link in one of my previous posts .
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 Posted 12/23/2008  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1gtsfan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The matte proofs can be hard to spot, but generally they have a surface that is somewhat lack luster grainy or granular appreance(not shiny ) like a normal business strike BU coin and the rims down to the field will be much more square than a normal business strike which has a more coved appearance from rim top to field .


i think this coin does look grainy. it isn't as shiny as any other MS coin in my album. I took more photos. I have no idea what to look for, any expert help would be greatly appreciated. I'm happy even if this is a regular business strike. but there appears to be a big difference in value.

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 Posted 12/24/2008  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gts ,it is nearly impossible for anyone to detemine a matte proof from pictures especially someone like me who is far from an expert on them .

You will either need to take this coin to a major show and have it looked at in hand by someone who knows way more about the dies for the matte proofs . or send it in to PCGS or NGC and see what they think .



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thank you metalman. I really appreciate your input on this coin.
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I would say no on the proof, the edges are not square, plus the detail is lacking. Here is a pick of a proof VDB-
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As for grade, MS64.
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 Posted 12/24/2008  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's definately not a proof, the rims aren't correct. The dicussion drifted that direction for other reasons.
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1958 - MS65RD
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1909 - MS63RB
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1909 - MS64RB
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