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mcshilling Pillar of the Community Canada 9150 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 3:16 pm What do you call this, looking for the right term. It is part of the coin will not come off and is raised. Report this Post to the Staff

JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21584 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 3:44 pm Normally a struck through would be incuse but if that is raised, maybe the thread is imbedded into the coin. A retained struck through? Is there such a term? Great pictures as always. Edited by JimmyD 03/09/2021 3:44 pm Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 3:55 pm JimmyD, i have not seen one in hand but I do know that "Retained Strike Through errors" are a real thing, only seen photos though. I wouldent say its a "rare" occurrence but it can happen, I think depending on the size/thickness of the foreign matter plays a big part when it comes to being retained on the surface, if it is thin enough when the coin is being struck it can push the surface metal over top of it slightly keeping it in place. Edit: Also, normally when something is raised on a coin it is incuse on the die, so MAYBE the strike through happened during the hubbing process, but even then we would probably see more of these if that were the case. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007 03/09/2021 3:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
JimmyD Bedrock of the Community Canada 21584 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 3:59 pm Quote: i have not seen one in hand but I do know that "Retained Strike Through errors" are a real thing, only seen photos though Thanks JohnWayne 007, I thought I had heard the term before but I wasn't sure. So a "Retained Struck through" it is. Report this Post to the Staff
mcshilling Pillar of the Community Canada 9150 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 4:40 pm Great info guys Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5585 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 5:26 pm I think that it a metal shaving that fell into the die and then stamped on the coin. It would be nice to find out if the raised "retention" was the same metal as the coin or some other metal that the copper encased when it was struck. Report this Post to the Staff
mcshilling Pillar of the Community Canada 9150 Posts	Posted 03/09/2021 7:13 pm Quote: I think that it a metal shaving that fell into the die and then stamped on the coin. It would be nice to find out if the raised "retention" was the same metal as the coin or some other metal that the copper encased when it was struck. Yes it would but I have no way of doing that. Report this Post to the Staff
pennysaver Pillar of the Community Canada 937 Posts	Posted 03/21/2021 3:42 pm Hi mcshilling I have recently purchased a retained struck through from one of the members here, and it looks similar to your coin, but the strike through portion is not raised; it is at the same level as the rest of the design. I would think that a retained struck through would not be raised above the level of the surrounding area of coin unless it had become a bit loose, as the small wire shaving would have been struck into the coin metal at the time of minting and become thoroughly embedded. My experience with this type of error is somewhat limited, however, so there may be factors in play with which I am not completely familiar. Nice find, though! Report this Post to the Staff
mcshilling Pillar of the Community Canada 9150 Posts	Posted 03/21/2021 7:45 pm I think I will have to take a closer look at it. Report this Post to the Staff
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