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My Experiences With An Appearance Review Submission To NGC

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 Posted 03/30/2021  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And in the package was a half-cent.


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 Posted 03/30/2021  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And while there was no documentation, there was something done to the Half Cent as this was before:

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And this is now:

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 Posted 03/30/2021  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a journey...
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 Posted 03/30/2021  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, once again NGC fails to impress me. I've said for a while NGC is slipping as a decent grading service. If your experience doesn't show it I dunno what will. I don't even pay FMV for NGC coins w/o CAC or QA anymore because their grading has gotten extremely loose
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 Posted 03/30/2021  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So what are my thoughts on the appearance review?

Other than pretty bad communication, I basically received 3 emails which announced they received the coin, shipped it back to me and the invoice I got no explanation on what was done.

So was it worth it?

And I'll give it a give HECK YEAH !

Would I do it again?

And this is also a YES

Reason why?

Basically I always had a concern that the guarantee are meaningless, this actually lessens that concern.

Any thing I would recommend?

I would probably recommend doing this for coins over $150, lower cost coins may not be worth it.

So NGC gets a C for communication but an A for their guarantee and conservation.

EDIT: While I don't agree with the grade, they did a good job on the conservation.
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03/30/2021 4:23 pm
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 Posted 03/30/2021  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the update.

It does look better. Pity you spent so much time in the dark waiting or the payoff.
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 Posted 03/30/2021  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kcm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone who's ever employed a few employees understands: shoddiness happens.

I suggest that @hfjacinto had the right, the reason, and, yes, perhaps the obligation to proceed exactly as @hfjacinto did.

I suggest that NGC had the right, the reason, and, beyond question, the obligation to proceed as NGC did.

I suggest that NGC's "mea culpa" resonates loudly enough from within the slab! I further suggest that both discusssants deserve numismatic praise from the CCF community.


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As long as you paid much less than AU-53 money for the original coin...
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I purchased the Half Cent for $20 less than AU 53, with the NGC review and shipping costs I'm $20 more than AU 53.

If I shipped it back and buying another one plus shipping I would have been with a few dollars of what I ended up paying.

This is more about the experience then the cost. What this showed me is that NGC took care of me, so even though I disagree about the initial grade NGC made it right.
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 Posted 03/30/2021  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What they did was probably ....
Cracked it out , used a little COIN CARE
or a similar product , reslabbed and sent
it back
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Quote:
What they did was probably ....
Cracked it out , used a little COIN CARE
or a similar product , reslabbed and sent
it back


Correct! But if I did it, it would be called "cleaning" but since NGC did it it's "conserved"
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 Posted 03/31/2021  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe they gave it a scrub with a toothbrush?

A learning experience yes, and I must say that this was quite educational for me.

NGC makes a mistake, admits it, and charges you $36 to make it right.

If car makers did this we would be foaming at the mouth. Why on earth do we collectors tolerate such behaviour?
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 Posted 03/31/2021  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No , if you did it it would be Conserving NOT
Cleaning . The only difference NCS and others get paid too well
for what you can do for very little .
Most of us who have been around for a long time
get the SAME results as the Conservation Services .
It comes down to knowing what you are doing and
what can be saved .
They make big money doing this for one simple
reason , MARKETING . Coin restoration is a bit
of an art with no guarantees of success . But it is
certainly not rocket science either!
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Quote:
It comes down to knowing what you are doing and what can be saved
I agree.

Not everyone can or will learn the correct procedures, therefore these paid services will almost always find success.
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