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Newly Purchased 1787 Massachusetts Cent Colonial: Opinions, Please

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 Posted 03/12/2021  9:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello Everyone! I'm looking for opinions on this coin. I don't have it in hand for the weight. What do you think?
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 Posted 03/13/2021  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Massachusetts cents can be difficult to attribute to die variety, so in this low grade that may not be possible. If you just want an affordable example of the type, I see nothing wrong with it. I love the colonial and state coinages, so much history there!
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It's supposed to be a Ryder 3-G
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I think that it's a period, circulated Cast Counterfeit; the first of this State coinage I have ever seen. I've had cast NJ - CT - Machin's - a PCGS-certified VT that they totally missed - GII 1/2d and have seen cast FUGIOs. This one, though, is a first...
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I don't have it in hand for the weight. What do you think?


I think that knowing the weight could be quite helpful. Please add that info if/when you get the coin in hand.
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 Posted 03/15/2021  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whatdowehavehere to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It weighs appx. 140 gr, and is 30.1 mm in diameter. The edge is round and thin. It looks lrough, but it's brown and most of the roughness is from the mold. The two "center dots" have been not-quite-successfully ground down to the surface. The host coin was apparently the 1787 3-G, but there are slight changes to the arrow tips. Curiously, the middle of the shaft of the arrow and the right side of the bow on the obverse are incuse, and thus the arrow is very fat. "COMM..." looks like it was engraved into the coin, but it's just an extremely poor impression.
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