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2000 D Lincoln Cent Maybe A DDO

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been looking at this for 2 days trying to figure it out and I'm just not sure. the (D) in united and the two (T,s) in states has me confused any help please
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Just another form of Machine Doubling. Nothing is doubled (enlarged) If the devices were enlarged, then it might be something. Kind of a bounce and hit on the devices from the machine.
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with coop. And coop, please correct me if I am wrong here but a MD strike will typically produce a form of 'MD doubling' which shows away from the rim (under the devices if you will like in the OP's photo) or in a pattern consistent with a clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation to the devices in relation to the rim. Die Deterioration Doubling usually always tends to be directed towards the rim of the coin on the outside edges of the devices. Am I correct in saying this? I've always wondered why this is usually the case. If you read this could you point us in the right direction with a link or something in your files. Thanks!

EDIT: Also Nyfireman, just FYI and I'm sure it was a simple typo, that is the Reverse of the coin, not the Obverse.
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03/15/2021 4:33 pm
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MD tends to be in a direction. Meaning across the coin, the devices are often affected in the same direction.
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Sometimes it is in two directions:
Coin one:
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Coin two:
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Coin three:
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So sometimes the machine was loose differently than they way it was seen on other MD coins. Perhaps a dual motion on the looseness?

So I found some rules, but none that are hard fast rules on Machine Doubling. Just does what ever it can do with in the range of motion of the machine:
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Here is a run found in three rolls that had examples of one machine, one set of dies with the same marker and different strikes that were different in 6 ways. The other examples were similar to these as well, but the looseness allowed was not cut and dry, but different.


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Thanks for putting up with all my questions. and thank you for everyones help
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This is yet another example where seeing the whole coin, both sides would have helped us. Please, everyone, help us to help you better by showing us the entire coin. Thanks.
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