1969 S Doubled Die Obverse / DDO -004 (On Date) Obverse And Reverse

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Sunny83 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 01:49 am So after figuring out how to get clearer photos with my magnifier and camera I'm thinking this is DDO-004 it shows in the date especially on the 9's in 1969 and the reverse matches the photos of DDO-004 Any input would be appreciated... Edited by Sunny83 03/20/2021 02:29 am Report this Post to the Staff

levelsofmadnes Pillar of the Community United States 3003 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 05:19 am hello Sunny83, there is no DDO-004 on variety vista website. variety vista only list two obverse doubled dies.http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...201969-S.htm wexler lists list two obverse doubled dies. https://www.doubleddie.com/314201.html coppercoins list three obverse doubled dies. http://www.coppercoins.com/diesearch.php also, very nice full reverse picture. a full obverse picture would be nice too. the close ups are blurry. were the close ups taken while the coin was in a 2x2? for diagnostic reasons, it is best to take close up pictures of the date with the mintmark and level. thanks Report this Post to the Staff
silviosi Pillar of the Community Canada 6244 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 06:04 am Like "levelsofmadnes" say, the both photos will help more. Do not forgot: you can see at 500x or 1000x, but the collecting do not go so far. If will go will be a really mass. Report this Post to the Staff
Sunny83 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 3:41 pm Excuse my mistake it's DDR-004 but does that include the doubled date and RPM? http://www.varietyvista.com/01b%20L...201969-S.htm Report this Post to the Staff
GrapeCollects Pillar of the Community United States 8938 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 4:05 pm You'd be correct in saying that it's DDR-004. But the date and mintmark just have Machine Doubling. Quote: Do not forgot: you can see at 500x or 1000x, but the collecting do not go so far. If will go will be a really mass. Report this Post to the Staff
levelsofmadnes Pillar of the Community United States 3003 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 4:36 pm when it comes to varieties with a mintmark, one of the diagnostics is placement of the mintmark in relationship to the date. that is why it is important to have a close up of the date with the mintmark and NOT at an angle. hard to tell from your slanted pictures but placement of the mintmark on your coin looks good for DDR-004. the doubled extra floor under the statue looks about right. to help confirm the variety, here are some extra pictures of the die markers for that coin. maybe you can find these markers on your coin. 4 SE die scratches off the bottom right leg of A in STATES 3 die scratches above the E in ONE to above the C in CENT 2 light NE die scratches off the top right of T in CENT die crack above initials VDB north south die scratches above 19 of the date also showing it is not an RPM... Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 5:23 pm To see what you are missing on your coin, note what the two examples (dies 2 and 3 on coppercoins) have that your coin doesn't: Note on the arrows, the hub doubling is seen as a raised area above the fields? On your coin, it is Machine Doubling on the devices outline. It does not enlarge the devices. Not look back at the coppercoins example. Now you can see on their attributed coins, the enlargement of the devices. Machine Doubling is caused by the machine on a normal die. But even Machine Doubling can affect a doubled die as well. As it alters the doubling with flattened areas. Note the big DDO: How you can see this: Note first all 4 examples are the same doubled die? Now note the Machine Doubling on the yellow arrows. See how those areas are flattened. The machine did this after these strikes. So a lot of these had this MD on the doubled die. That doesn't cancel them out, as they are a doubled die, with Machine Doubling. But to a serious collector, they prefer not to have the doubled die as it is a distraction to the doubled die. But when there are less than 50 examples of this DDO, they take what they can get. Hope this helps you see why your is not a doubled die, and that doubled dies have the doubling on the die transferred to the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Sunny83 Valued Member United States 69 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 7:36 pm Now that ive ruffled feathers I'll leave this one alone... Lol... But on a serious note thank you everyome for your input... I'm still learning& Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/20/2021 9:00 pm We like to keep the cobwebs cleaned out of our brains. Report this Post to the Staff
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1969 S DDO-004 (On Date) Obverse And Reverse