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1940 S Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die(S) - DDO-002, DDR-005

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 Posted 03/21/2021  12:39 am Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This one was pointed out to me on ebay, and decided to grab it. I have a pretty nice, fairly rare, EDS of this DDO with the first reverse, which is DDR-004. This one is right after they changed the reverse and has an early stage of DDR-005 as the reverse.

Always thought this one was pretty neat, as it has DDO / DDR and DDO / DDR die marriages. Also, the strong MD on the date seems to occur after the reverse die was changed, as it seems to be on all the examples with DDR-005. How MD occurs the same on every coin is beyond my pay grade to explain.

1940-S Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die(s) - DDO-002, DDR-005


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 Posted 03/21/2021  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scuba1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How you take the pictures you do, THROUGH a plastic holder......, is absolutely incredible. Nice grab and a neat one TB!
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 Posted 03/21/2021  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice to get the pair -- Congrats
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Thanks! As for the pics through plastic, if the slab isn't scratched up then it's pretty much the same as a regular coin. I have to tweedle with the focus a bit more as the camera will try and focus on the holder edges but that's fairly easy to overcome. My troubles are with taking a regular whole coin (not whole slab) pic, trying to get the coin to shine while not having lighting reflection from the plastic on it. It's partly why I didn't include such here, but also it's just a lot more time per coin to take even more photos.
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 Posted 03/21/2021  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add levelsofmadnes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
congratulations

excellent pickup
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Indeed these are super pics.
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wow! If this wasn't an uncirculated mint coin, it would be impossible to even see these doubling details being so minor.
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I wouldn't call this one so minor. Moderate extra thickness on both sides is easily visible on even well circulated coins. True, the actual separation lines would disappear, but the thickness is quite easy to spot.
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Not to steal your thread, but you got my attention with this variety and I had to drag out my example to exam it for MD on the date [since I didn't recall it].

The pic is of a stage C example and I'm not seeing MD similar to yours so maybe it's on most but not all? The quality of the pic isn't so great.

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Interesting. It looks like the same MD is there, but super light. Do you see it also below the eyelid? Maybe it is some kind of die chatter that makes more or less the same MD in the same direction but varies from coin to coin from nothing to fairly strong. Totally unsure.
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 Posted 03/21/2021  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find. Would be interesting to find out if there is a mechanical alignment issue like a loose bolt or something that causes press to jump. Until it get loose enough to lock down again. Definitely something that would take a TropicalBat's type collection to figure out.
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1940-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-DieS---DDO-002,-DDR-005

This is the eyelid for my copy. There is a line across the lower lid, but not sure if that is what you are referring to as MD.

Also, I have the earlier version with DDR-4 which doesn't have that eyelid line and no obvious MD .
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No, not a split eyelid, but MD to the south. It's really quite extensive showing up all the way down the profile and through the date and mm including the bowtie.


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That looks like Machine Doubling on the eyelid also.
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Very nice! Looks good. Solid DDO / DDR combo, sweet.

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