1925 South Africa 1 Sov Grade Help

I'll say MS-63+, portrait side holds it back.

if what you are saying is true
But what is the purpose of making a fake one with too much details when it is a common sovereign

yes it is made of gold

very nice

@chronos , think you have another fake on your hands .
Agree that the details are not up to snuff .
Lebanon was a hotbed of counterfeit gold coins in the early 70s .
This was before it was legal to own bullion gold in the US again.
So what they did was fake old Sovs , USA , Canadian and
World collectors or special interest gold collector coins and
send them to the States ,
An interesting fact .. some of the counterfeit Sovs actually
Have slightly more gold in them than the original Royal Mint
Or Branch mint ones!

Discussion of the various sources of sovereigns reminds me of the Bank of Greece's rates to buy and sell sovereigns:


A.SOVEREIGN
99 GOLD OF FINENESS* 0.995 - 1.000 PER GRAM ** 46,72 euros ask; 52,79 euros bid

B. SOVEREIGN: FINENESS 0.9166 (7,940 - 7,988 GRAM)
01 OLD SOVEREIGN 345,52 ask, 416,59 bid
02 NEW SOVEREIGN (minted up to 1973 inclusive) 345,52, ask; 416,59 bid
03 NEW SOVEREIGN (minted from 1974 onward) 345,52 ask; 412,79 bid
04 SOVEREIGN defective in appearance 335,14 ask; 404,10 bid

C. SOVEREIGN : UNDERWEIGHT or OF DIFFERENT FINENESS
05 UNDERWEIGHT SOVEREIGN OF FINENESS 0.9166 (7,900 - 7,939 GR) 329,82 372,75
06 UNDERWEIGHT SOVEREIGN OF FINENESS 0.9166 (7,500 - 7,899 GR) 313,12 353,88
07 UNDERWEIGHT SOVEREIGN OF FINENESS 0.9166 (7.000 - 7.499 GR) 292,24 330,29
08 ITALIAN MINTING SOVEREIGN OF FINENESS 0.905 318,89 360,42
09 LEBANESE MINTING SOVEREIGN OF FINENESS 0.720 254,93 288,25

D. COINS
80 FINENESS 0.900 PER GRAM 41,41 46,80
81 FINENESS 0.9166 PER GRAM 42,17 47,66
83 UNDERWEIGHT OF FINENESS 0.900 PER GRAM 41,00 46,33
84 UNDERWEIGHT OF FINENESS 0,9166 PER GRAM 41,75 47,19
85 ITALIAN or LEBANESE MINTING OF FINENESS 0.900 PER GRAM 39,94 45,15
86 LEBANESE MINTING OF FINENESS 0.720 PER GRAM
31,95 36,12
87 LEBANESE MINTING OF FINENESS 0.600 PER GRAM
26,62 30,10
88 LEBANESE MINTING OF FINENESS 0.500 PER GRAM
22,18 25,09

https://www.bankofgreece.gr/en/main...e8f26f310bb0

A very late thank you. That bank of Greece page was gold. Very funny to see the diversity of fake sovereigns confirmed in that way. That they are so common in some parts of the world that they deserve all these entries in official prices.

But poor greeks! They are suffering a big ask-bid spread. Here the central bank gave up on gold operations and pricing with the public in 1998. Surprised that Greeces continues with that.

I also think the original coin shown here was genuine. A variation of the reverse die. Shorter dragon things are common in other years.