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I believe this is an 1840 Braided Hair small date. I can't fix the value, they are all over the place. This looks nicer than most of the coins I see out there.  Edited by CoppersPub 04/05/2021 11:15 pm
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Can you post a pic of the reverse as well?
Questionable color and also looks possibly whizzed. Surfaces are definitely not original. Sadly, a Details coin.
Edit: correct in this is a small date
Edited by Ty2020b 04/05/2021 11:42 pm
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I agree, surfaces appear to be altered unfortunately
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New here... Sorry, "whizzed?"
Will dig it back out and post a reverse when I can.
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Whizzing is done using a variety of metal, fiberglass, plastic etc. attachments on a rotary tool (dremel, drill, etc) to artificially enhance or create luster. Sometimes it's more obvious than others, especially if done poorly, but if done well is harder to notice without magnification. There will be hairlines visible under high magnification.
It usually leaves the surfaces flat a lifeless, as seen on your coin. There is no cartwheel effect to your example, with no rhyme or reason to the way the light reflects off the surfaces.
You can search "whizzed" or "whizzing" in the search bar and find a few good threads with examples.
Edited by Ty2020b 04/06/2021 12:41 am
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 to CCF. When you find the coin please remove it from the holder (carefully) and post photos of the obverse and reverse of the coin. John1 
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I agree that it has the classic whizzed look
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Bedrock of the Community
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Closeups of both sides should clarify.   to the CCF!
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Looks like a Chinese fake.
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 Glad to see that you asked first, well done. I would agree that the surfaces are not original, sad, but even detail graded it would bring a bit more than one which is not should that be part of your question. To go that route I'd go with ANACS since their fees are cheaper without a membership fee. Still, it is a nice example all things considered.
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I think it would go for more as is than if it were graded if you were to put it on ebay
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NumisEd, just curious what you are seeing that gives the impression of a Chinese Fake. Is it the odd colored dentil? No disrespect meant, I am trying to learn to see what others see in spotting fake coins.
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This coin exhibits not the slightest sense of age in any way. There are no subtleties to the toning, no sense of warmth. This cannot be an original specimen.
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Quote: This coin exhibits not the slightest sense of age in any way 100% agree, like NumisEd I initially thought this was a fake because those surfaces don't look anything like an authentic piece. I still am leaning toward it being fake, the details look off. I don't know if the details are off because it isn't genuine, or because it wore down a fair bit before getting whizzed. Either way, the details plus the surfaces are extremely suspect
Edited by PNWType 04/08/2021 02:44 am
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First,   Excluding crude cast fakes, the only counterfeit 1840 cents that I have seen are muled variety large date coins, struck from transfer dies. We desperately need to see the reverse pics here.
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