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Valued Member
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what are the physical differences between MS-64 rated coins vs. MS-65 rated coins?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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about $100  Just kidding....the truth is, it could be the number of bag marks or the weakness/strength of the strike, the mood of the grader or any combination of those. |
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Valued Member
 Canada
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hahaha!  See, this is why I said, "What are the PHYSICAL differences..." Thanks for the explanation. I'm thinking of buying some MS-65 coins for my personal set and buying MS-64 coins for re-sale at a later date. Edited by Coinage
12/28/2008 8:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Coinage, I'll see your dancing Banana and raise you one Happy Pepper  |
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Canada
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Aye... that's nasty
edit... better dances applied.
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Edited by IBGolden
12/28/2008 9:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MS-64--Few marks/hairlines or a couple of severe ones, strike should be average or above
MS-65--Minor marks/hairlines though none in focal areas, above average strike It all depends on where the marks are on the coin. |
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United States
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It really could be anything that drops a coin from MS65 to a MS64. When I grade, its mostly bagmark and hits that knock these down for me, especially if they are in the prime focal area.
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United States
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I agree with ceaton , since grading is essentially based on the details of the coin , when comparing Mint state to mint state grades the difference could be anything from a scratch to where that scratch is , a hit on the reverse field opposed to a hit on the cheek on the obverse would be one example .
die polishing and die state are also factors since they determine the sharpness or the weakness in the design .
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Valued Member
United States
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Like stated above where the bag marks are located is important, the more hidden the better. I also believe full complete luster is important on some series as well as strike. Even though strike in my opinion should not be considered for a TECHNICAL grade as that is the way the coin was originally minted. For general grading purposes I think that considering strike along with all other factors is useful. I think that a gem coin needs to have full booming luster above and or below the toning (if any) and real clean full, sharp surfaces and rims.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Don't you think that grading now is more liberal now than years ago ? With the breakout and resubmission game, it looks like TPG services aim to please. |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Since the same coin can come back MS63 or MS66, the real answer is there is no difference. Acccording to the guy who invented the system, a MS66 should be worth 10% more than a MS60, yet it sometimes is worth 1000 times as much. The instant you take a MS65 coin out of the slab, figure it's a MS63. Then take up a hobby like collecting coins instead of pieces of plastic.
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what are the physical differences between MS-64 rated coins vs. MS-65 rated coins? If it's a TPG, depends on how their day is going. If they feel good, it's a MS65. If they have a headache, it's MS64. swcoin.ecrater.com
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United States
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The OP never mentioned TPG's. Only MS-64 vs. MS-65. Personal opionion. There are basically 3 MS grades: MS-60 to MS-62 --> It's uncirculated, but got a lot of stuff going on MS-63 to MS-66 --> Nice Uncirculated coin - not too many distractions MS-67+ ---> Nice coin. Primo. You might not be able to define it, but you know it when you see it. |
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United States
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Quote:The OP never mentioned TPG's. Only MS-64 vs. MS-65. Personal opionion. There are basically 3 MS grades: MS-60 to MS-62 --> It's uncirculated, but got a lot of stuff going on MS-63 to MS-66 --> Nice Uncirculated coin - not too many distractions MS-67+ ---> Nice coin. Primo. You might not be able to define it, but you know it when you see it. I like this. They should change the nomenclature to MS-1, MS-2 or MS-3. That would make things much easier. :) |
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Posted 12/28/2008 8:12 pm
