Couple Of Doubled Dates?

I see nothing out of the ordinary on either coin.

With all do respect, the 9 and the 2 look anything but ORDINARY!

Coppercoins, I thank you for taking the time to look and post on this thread. Now I must say that I was ready for anything ( at least I thought I was )in response to these pics. I thought I would be told something like I dunno, Die chatter, ect. Something that would explain why it is not a Doubled Die. Believe me it has become a bit funny in my house when I think I have something And when I do find something it turns out there are one point five Billion other examples of my find

But back to the subject at hand. I cannot accept wear in this case. If anything the wear that is on this coin, takes away from the Doubling detail that would be seen otherwise! It would be the most detailed and defined "wear" I have ever seen, to take the exact shape of an offset 2. Can you really tell me you do not see the split serif?

Thanks for taking the time coppercoins.

Now could someone tell me why the chosen Design for the 1920 Lincoln Cent is a 2 followed by an offset 2?

You do not have a Lincoln Cent exhibiting a 2 followed by an offset 2. You have a normal Lincoln Cent that wore down with a hit at the end of the 2. Do you realistically think that the rest of the digits on the coin are supposed to have the rounded corners? No...they were worn down that way. Pounding and hitting things through circulation, this is what happens to the devices. They start out squared off, and on an uncirculated or AU coin that's what you should expect to see. Once the coin wears down enough to lose metal (EF or lower) you should expect to see mushy details and flattened letters. The flattening makes them thicker and rounded off at the corners, and hits make notches and other grooves in the letters that wear oddly.

If you want to find a doubled die, back off the magnification to 10X and look for something obvious that is notched at the corners, higher grade, and has as much relief and extra thickness as would be expected from having a doubled set of devices. Like Dave said, if you look at every coin and scrutinize them very closely under 30X or more, you are likely to waste a heck of a lot of time finding nothing that looks like it "could" be something. Have fun, but look for something more obvious than a flyspeck. That's the only way you can expect to move forward in your hunt.

Believe me...I have been there too. Everyone has. They find something (or not) and blow the microscope up to its fullest power and flyspeck hunt...it's just not the way to do things - you end up with a lot of low valued minor doubling or nothing at all that looks like doubling under high power. Expect to go through thousands of coins looking for a good cherry - don't expect everything you see to be "something" because the "somethings" are quite scarce and take some patience and effort to find.

Whether or not you ruffled my feathers is unimportant, rujam - I don't count for anything special around here. It's just that you seem to be establishing a record of, um, asking for expert opinion and then not listening to it. If I seem to be a little testy, it's in your interest - if you don't get accustomed to the idea that *every* coin has errors visible under a mic, and only the smallest minority of them are of any interest whatsoever, you're going to burn out in six months. That would be a loss to both you and the collecting community as a whole, because you display great enthusiasm and the willingness to work hard at your hobby.

Rujam, Superdave has given you some excellent advice, as has Coppercoins. I do not believe that Superdave is attempting to fight with you and doesn't need to "chill out". Please read his post again and see that he is trying to help you. You are in the same position that many, many error collectors have been in. If any coin is overscrutinized, you will find errors. There is very little in this world that's perfect and coins certainly do not fall into that category. Relax and continue to post your questions, but don't take offense at the answers offered. We're just trying to help.

Hi Rujam

I have read this thread with interest from the beginning, and followed closely the thoughts of all that have posted thus far.

I have to tell you that I also believe that the end of the loop of the 2 is a contact mark,, I use this as an evidence of why I believe that, if looking at the very clear pic, of the 2, the raised area to the top of mark is an indication of the metal being pushed from a contact hit IMO, it stands out against the evenness of the rest of the numbers.Now this is not conclusive and rates only that of an opinion.

I have said this before !!! If your convinced that what you have is something other than the opinions that you have been given, then submit the coin for attribution,, I will always be hoping that I was wrong in such an instance.

Happy Hunting !!

Rick