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Another 1857 FEC Counterfeit,

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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:15 am Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Told the seller but it's still listed .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/373567867630
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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypesetCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great find! It might help the community allot more if you can share with us as to why you are calling this a counterfeit.

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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:22 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has the broken wheat stalk . Pretty sure it's a Chinese fake.
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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnH4444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks fine to me, don't know what your seeing that's wrong with it
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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:38 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a very well known Chinese counterfeit . We get them listed on ebay constantly.
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 Posted 05/06/2021  09:40 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind. He took it down.
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 Posted 05/06/2021  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypesetCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info unfortunately by the time I read you're analysis of the coin, I wasn't able to see what you meant.

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 Posted 05/06/2021  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypesetCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks jbuck!

The proverb "GIVE A MAN a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for his life time." Comes to mind when discussing coins. I think it should be customary to post pics and add a description when calling out fakes. It will help the Coin community at large.

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Quote:
I think it should be customary to post pics and add a description when calling out fakes. It will help the Coin community at large.
It is encouraged, for posterity.

For the record, even when a listing is pulled, you can still grab the images. Check out the "eBay Tools" link on the left. There you will find "Get Large Listing Image."
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 Posted 05/06/2021  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These show up frequently and I'm sure guys get tired of them being posted here there's so many. The listing is still viewable. I just now clicked on my link and pulled this pic off it. Here's the broken wheat stalk for you.


Another-1857-FEC-Counterfeit,
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 Posted 05/06/2021  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypesetCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Raymo! TBH I am probably more interested in most. Especially when learning how to detect fakes.

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 Posted 05/06/2021  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good call - his "Corrosion" looks to also be porosity from a casting?
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 Posted 05/06/2021  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've certainly learned a lot from this thread.
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 Posted 05/07/2021  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back up and I reported it probably won't do any good though.
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So much of this fake crap on ebay that I don't even bother with anything unless it is in sealed mint packaging anymore. I am at a disadvantage here because the closest coin shop to me is 50 miles one way. I was fortunate however that my brother in law lives in the Philly area where there are lots of shops and he got me a 1857 FE for $40 in F-15. I feel a little more comfortable knowing it came from a reputable dealer.
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