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On A 1861 Half Dime, Yikes Grade!

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Considering I didn't spend an arm and a leg on this, I, mr.crazy went ahead and bought this gemmy one... Now aside from the obscene luster this has, on the reverse upper left, looks to have much die polish, because of the flat strike. There was another thread earlier on another 1861 Half Dime with similar tales of die workers overpolishing everything that year. Of note on the obverse, the O in OF is incomplete, and methinks there is a bit of weak strike around the shield. I am curious what everybody thinks...

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A couple of different lighting sources....




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Whizzed in my opinion.
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I'm of the same opinion as westernsky. Does have a whizzed appearance.
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Almost certainly whizzed. There is a lack of sharpness to a majority of the devices, not a result of strike weakness, but altered surfaces.
Also, a bit hard to judge from the photos, but I'm also noticing some haloing around STATES, where whatever abrasive was used, did not reach. This is also noticeable around the date.
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Harshly cleaned.
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Oh - yes, first time I saw the second set of pics "WHIZZED" instantly came about. Good thing as you definitely need your Arm and a Leg
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The topic of light wizzing is something I am not to familiar with too much. This coin seems to have much more luster in person than pics can show, but it could be still whizzed. I am looking at more pictures online of similarly definitely whizzed coins to get a better feel.
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Quote:
light wizzing

Whether or not a coin is whizzed is binary. No such thing as "light whizzing". If you can return the coin, you may want to excercise that option. Whizzed coins are meant to deceive an unsuspectiing buyer.
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Whizzing came about in the late 1960's and flourished in the 70's and 80's. It has kinda died down the last 30 years or so as it is easily recognizable and will not make it thru mainstream TPG services. This coin proves that the coin scrubbers and whizzers are still plying the trade and are trying to fool people.

Any time you see a 160 year old raw coin that looks out of place you better take a very hard look at it before spending money on it.
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To help the OP help identify such coins in the future, the perfect candidate for whizzing is an EF/AU coin which may gain the appearance of BU after being whizzed. This particular coin is probably not weakly struck but an XF/AU before becoming whizzed. surprisingly the first set of pictures don't really show whizzing features (perhaps they were taken prior to the coin being whizzed) and the seller probably counted on the second set in order to promote the sale.
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Too bad it wasn't left alone.
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It looks whizzed to me also.
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Actually, these five pics were taken within 2 hours of each other, and I meant to say the first 2 pics were taken with my cameraphone in the dealers original 2x2, the others are when I got home and took it out to photograph as-is, under different lighting.
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Softly struck. Clearer pics would help.
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Put me in as whizzed
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