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Bedrock of the Community
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Can you crop and enlarge these images?  to the CCF!
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Pillar of the Community
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MS63
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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Bedrock of the Community
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What a great coin! Hard for me to grade in the capsule or out but I too would guess MS63
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Pillar of the Community
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Somewhere between 63 and 64. Nice coin no matter what it grades!
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Pillar of the Community
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I would go with 63-64, it's hard to grade these as light/angle can make a huge difference.
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Bedrock of the Community
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MS-63 sounds about right.
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Better to remover the coin from the holder for pics. Gold is tricky to grade. Looks like a very nice coin
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As mentioned by a few gold is interesting to grade and without crisp photos that don't include the encapsulation it's hard to tell for sure. At the very least you need to get well lit and crisp photos. It's possible even in the capsule. Those ones are slightly out of focus so the grade is impossible to determine accurately. I'm going to guess that coin is in an original RCM capsule and so it can't be removed without breaking the seal. Is it Hand-Selected or Premium Hand-Selected? Gold seal or silver seal? Based on what you can see in the pictures it appears like there is a fair bit of chatter in the fields on the obverse. This will typically limit you to around MS64. Depending on the severity of the hits in the fields and on the portrait it could easily be as low as 62 or 63 or could make 64. There are some odd looking marks under the portrait that look grade limiting potentially. There's also one below the date on the reverse. This makes me think you are probably looking more at a 63 there. If this is HS that's kind of typical. If it's PHS you'll probably be disappointed. Please note this is all speculation until we see better pictures. The luster also plays an important role in the grade. It the coins are especially lustrous it can help a little. Unfortunately I don't see any significant degree of toning on the coin which is another thing I always look for in the hoard coins. The toning is desirable. Lev
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Quote: The toning is desirable. For you maybe. I like it bright and shiny. Gold is basically inert and does not tone like silver or other metals. On 90% gold, toning is either a layer or foreign "gunk" on the coin or the reaction of the copper in the alloy being exposed to harsh conditions. The gold itself does not tone. Often toning on gold indicates the purity is less than 90%, 50% gold will "tone" fairly quickly, 90% gold, even when not stored carefully, can take decades to "tone", 99% gold, centuries.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website
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In a general sense you may be right, but when it comes to Canadian Hoard gold coins, toning IS desirable. This is my 1914 MS64 $5. The toning on the reverse is the nicest I've seen yet. You don't generally see this on non-hoard coins, but it's not uncommon on the hoard ones. I look for it so for me at least it's desirable. YMMV. 
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Thanks everyone for you help! It is in the original RCM case and is just hand selected! I'd much prefer not to take it out of its case. But all your comments give me a better idea of what I have! Also I don't know why but I have a real hard time getting good pictures that are under 300kb. That's another reason why they were so awful!
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New Member
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Would it be worth sending to ngs?
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Valued Member
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You can resize a high resolution image using the free image optimizer tool linked down below if you use the full reply button. It takes a bit of practice to figure it out but it works quite well once you do. Mainly you reduce the pixels down a ways until it shows under 300kb and save it. Then when you go to add the image you go into browse function afterwards to find it. Like I said, takes a bit of practice. :)
I'd probably just hold onto it myself. 1914 $10 are the most common by far and if it's around MS63 it's really not worth a lot more than the gold weight in the coin. Enjoy it in its case and save yourself some money. :)
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