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I May Bid On This '83-P Jefferson Error - Interesting

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I'm thinking of bidding on this one, but I'm wondering about the Brockage area. It does not match the curve of another nickel. It's more of that of a cent or dime and I find that interesting!

Thoughts?

Thanks!

Here are the certification details.

Date, mintmark 1983-P
Denomination 5C
Mint Error 5% Brockage
Pedigree & Partial Collar
Grade MS63

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I agree the brockage looks smaller. Cent or Dime as you said. Is it slabbed? A nice coin either way. Hope you win!

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If there were brockage, that would tell you what made the indent.
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I like it for Brockage though not from another coin. Possibly part of a broken spring. Very cool how part of E Pluribus struck up well because the brockage forced the planchet into the reverse die at that point but kept the dies apart near the brockage which caused much of the high points of the design on both sides to be weakly struck
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What is going on with the center of the coin. Both sides show some flattening. (ear area and the bottom of the building)
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I am not seeing brockage here, what am I missing?
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It looks like whatever was in the striking chamber was hard enough to prevent the dies from completing their strike. It appears to have actually caused the dies to tilt enough from the brockage to fully strike the opposite edge of the coin
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If you click on the pic to enlarge it - there seems to be lettering remnants on that said obverse problem area? Or is that just Pareidolia?
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The brockage is the thin curve itself which held the dies apart.
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It's PCGS certified. They call it a 5% Brockage and I can see the outline of letters(?) at K:6 on the obverse, but I can't seem to figure out what it says.

The flat areas could have been caused by what ever blocked the obverse die. They could have kept the dies from seating completely and left the centers from getting a full design transfer.

Great comments and questions! THANKS for the replies!

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Good eye , a spring looks less likely now.
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What coin is smaller then our dime that the Philadelphia mint would mint. Foriegn maybe? Was thare a description for it on auction at ebay? Good luck and hope you get it..
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Maybe we need Mikes input on this one?
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Quote:
If you click on the pic to enlarge it - there seems to be lettering remnants on that said obverse problem
area?


I see it too but just cant make it out
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Nice error. Hope you win.
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Also looks like a die clash reverse... from base of building, next to M of Monticello, through F and I of Five, to the top of the first T in States
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