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1982 P 10c Annealing Error?

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Weight 2.26g

Close up of reverse shows a small die crack and to me, looks like a blending of black and red colors. Coin has a dark red look at an angle.

Opinions welcome & thanks for looking!


1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
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1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 06/05/2021  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not seeing anything on this one. Maybe a side by side with another coin would highlight the difference, but this just looks like an ordinary dime to me.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the die crack you spoke of, but this is one of those coins where, what do you do with it now? If you kept every small die crack you came across, you'd go broke. Not major enough to command much of a premium. My suggestion? Give it to a young collector with hopes of fostering a lifelong interest in numismatics. A local coin shop might know of a few. Just an idea.

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 Posted 06/06/2021  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Samcoin, here are some side by sides (79D & 89D).

1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 06/06/2021  05:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not think it is an annealing error from the mint.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks normal to me.
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 Posted 06/06/2021  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks gang, I know this is a difficult type of error to determine from mediocre photos. Here's a couple more photos, again there is a reddish tone at the right angle. I wish "TrueView" would include rim photos of these annealing errors to compare.


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1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 06/08/2021  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a circulated coin that may have been out in the elements for a time. Not a plus for the coin. Spender.
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 Posted 06/08/2021  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could have been a metal detector find sometime. &
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 Posted 06/09/2021  12:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a certified 2000 D 25c Improperly Annealed Planchet.


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This is a comparison between that 25c and the 10c in question. Does anybody see a similarity in the red & black marbling here?


1982-P-10c-Annealing-Error?

"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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 Posted 06/09/2021  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like environmental toning to me. The fact that the rim is affected by the same toning is a pretty good sign that it's not an annealing error.
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SamCoin, I wish we could see rim photos of these certified annealing errors. There are so many different shades and colors of these errors that the rim can't possibly have the same qualities for all the different severities.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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@CoinHI trust me, I know what black magic attributing these things feels like. My general approach is that if the coin doesn't have any of its original mint luster left, then it's just too far gone for me to tell and I come down in favor of environmental damage. I've only found one that I'm confident is an annealing error, and it was on a mint state coin with full luster.

Edit: link if you're interested. As you can see, no one else was convinced, but I took it elsewhere and ultimately built up enough info that I feel confident in spite of the response from the forum. http://goccf.com/t/397477
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06/09/2021 08:57 am
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Thanks for the link SamCoin! That helps.
"Pride is yoked with callous behavior, as humility is with compassion." St. Gregory Palamas

Top Finds - 1969-S 1c FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/477681 1976 D WQ FS-101 http://goccf.com/t/382777 - 1968 D 1c FS-801 http://goccf.com/t/422254
Cool clashed dies - 1972 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/429855&SearchTerms=CCL
Struck-In Rim Burr - 1969 S 1c http://goccf.com/t/425587&SearchTerms=burr
Floating (Type II) Counterclash - 1978 D 1c http://goccf.com/t/434991&SearchTerms=1978


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This it is not annealing error. the Nickel coins in the sulfureted environment will take this color. In previous post I show the wrights color of annealing with temperature. When annealing is involved in the color of nickel through black; we has to have blue traits.
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