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2020 American Samoa Die Clash

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 Posted 06/21/2021  7:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this yesterday
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Incuse marks on the tops of devices are not part of a die clash. Those are coin damage from the reeds of other coins. The clash marks are on the field areas next to the outlines of the designs on each side of the coin. Clashes do not affect the tops of the coins devices, damage does.
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I wish I had a clad coin with this design to show you how those areas would be affected.
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Where the arrows are meeting the fields, these areas would show outline marks on the opposite dies.
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 Posted 06/21/2021  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that is damage not a mint error.
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Thanks coop. They can also appear on the bust which may or may not be as common I don't know. I discovered this smoking Washington last year and its now at Anacs being attributed
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Thanks Spence. This is listed as ADC-25c-2018P-01MV on Cuds on coins. Maybe because its an atypical die clash it left marks on the fields and the bust
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The first coin on the top as mentioned by coop & spence, shows contact marks and scrapes not clashed dies.
But the last coin does show the clash marks on the bust and in the field on the pony tail and the hair curls, nice find.
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Thanks Chase007. Contact marks from reeds look different if you ask me. These potential clash marks line up with the reverse and you can see where they were abraded at the mint trying to remove them. There are also abrasion marks on the reverse proving this die was clashed. I'm going to try and send this one in to maddieclashes. I made a mistake and said the 2018 was listed on Cuds on coins. Here's a picture of the reverse abrasion and a better photo of the obverse abrasion. The reeds of another coin would not scratch the coin vertically and horizontally in the exact same spot if you ask me.
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