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2015 Homestead Error What Is It?

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 Posted 06/29/2021  3:49 pm Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My lady was quite the observant one and brought this home for me wondering if it's grease struck through or something else because of the weight no idea on the mint mark if better pics are needed let me know glad to do what I can to help identify!
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It's a damaged coin that has been ground down removing the ribbing
and the reverse. Known as Post Mint Damage ( PMD)
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Doubt PMD for the lack of detail, the light surface scratches I agree. If it is PMD Why would the rim NOT be the same depth as the lowest parts of the face if it was ground off? Also why does the coin not show metal flow with mounds of metal at the edges pushed up irregularly. The reverse as well comes to a sharp rim which is IMPOSSIBLE "if" the reverse was ground down
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Images of the edge on obverse and reverse raised not flat. The 2nd and third image are of the same area just different angles. I can take pics all around the coin rim if needed
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 Posted 06/29/2021  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with JimmyD--post strike damage. Didn't leave the striking chamber in that state.
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I'm not going to argue with you. You asked what happened and I told you.
If you want to wait until others chime in, that is fine.
If you can explain to me how that could have happened during the striking of the coin
when it was retained in a collar, then I will conceed that it is an error.
If you new the minting process, you would know that it is impossible for that to happen when the coin was struck.
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Better question Is if this was ground flat why is his ear in the middle of the coin not completely obliterated. photo below
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Not arguing at all just trying to explain what I see I apologize if I'm a little cras but no ill intent or negativity from my end
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If you believe you have a valuable coin that's the worst possible way you can hold a coin. Hold it from the from the outside edge/rim of the coin. In this particular case it really doesn't matter because everything questioned is just damage. Nothing in the minting process can produce this. It was damaged after it left the mint, How? who knows except the person that did it
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 Posted 06/29/2021  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Check Decaf94drew's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Decaf94drew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok so trash coin basically never grease struck? Spoon tapped ground down and left in a coin star should I just go put it back? Or keep it as an example of severe damage I haven't seen yet and use it as a learning tool?
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This is a form of Post Mint Damage. Intentional or accidental, it couldn't have been minted this way.

It could also be a Dryer Coin that was wedged in the drum at one time. If it was stuck in a tight area, the surrounding metal could have removed the details of the obverse, but there was less contact at the dead center of the coin leaving it higher than the rest of the devices.
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Put me in the PMD column.
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Last question so I can get this all straight so the first picture is a normal homestead for comparison. The second photo is the coin in question. Why is there missing brick work not punched into the top of the building. It's raised out with no detail of the brick(or wood not sure what it is) not punched into the coin. from my understanding that is a Struck Through Grease or something or is raised detail considered the face ground down? Last phot is the question coin reverse closer view
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Not a Struck Through Grease.
The reverse has been partially removed as well.
Believe me, I have seen dozens of these.
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So the letters on the obverse of something like this will be the same shape/size and not display flow lines from being filed/ground/squished?

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The A in states that is in the midst of the worst damage still looks complete and "unmoved" to me
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