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Somewhat Impaired Pair

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These two coins don't have anything in common other than they were bought together today on the cheap owing to their unsightly condition, and my reservations regarding the advisability and practicality of improving their appearance.

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The one on the left I believe to be an issue of Syracuse circa 295 BC. It's about 21.5 mm in diameter, with a weight of just over 8.5 grams. Yes, the color in the photo is a true representation, it's almost a hideous shade of green, this basically consisting of smooth hard surfaces. I'm wondering if this is naturally occurring or an artifact of some past cleaning/conservation effort, and what (if anything) ought to be done about it

The one on the right is a very common Roman issue, a Constantinopolis commemorative with what I take to be a SMHS mint mark, which I would interpret as identifying it as having been struck in Heraclea. This I think ought to respond to an olive oil soak if it'd make any sense to eliminate the hard turquoise colored deposits.

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Your Constantinopolis coin has a mintmark of SMNS (RIC 196... S is unlisted, but noted for the VRBS ROMA issue, so to be expected) and is from Nicomedia. The green could be removed, but I would expect the surfaces underneath might not be so great.
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The one on the left is "good green" - ancient bronzes pretty much always look like that in their "natural" state.

The one on the right is "bad green". This pale powdery form of corrosion is "bronze disease". It should be treated, in order to conserve the remainder of the coin as, if left to itself, the green will slowly spread across the rest of the coin.

Back to the first coin, it looks as if it has been treated to remove some bronze disease. See the bright green "craters" across the king's name? I'm a little concerned, given the remaining bits of bright green, that the treatment was ineffective and the bronze disease could continue to spread.

The main problem with bronze disease is that it can go down into the coin, as well as across it; when the bronze disease is removed, it leaves behind "craters" like you see on the first coin.
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The one on the left is "good green" - ancient bronzes pretty much always look like that in their "natural" state.

I just don't recall ever seeing one quite this green - it looks almost like a piece of jade!

The other coin is now soaking in olive oil.

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Your Constantinopolis coin has a mintmark of SMNS...from Nicomedia.

Examining it more closely, I concur.

Its soak is progressing nicely, with a good portion of the surfaces affected already looking restored.

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Some information on the Greek coin of this pair and the its historical background:

https://willamette.edu/arts-science...nfo/030.html


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