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1888 NFLD 5c - Something Is Wrong!

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Apologies for the terrible photo!

This is a first for me - a fake 1888 Newfoundland 5c. It's either fake or it's been tampered with in some way. Thoughts?


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It looks almost like a Dryer Coin, or as though someone's been beating the rim prior to turning it into a ring.
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That is the weirdest thing I've learned about this year. Thanks!
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No dryers back in the day so more likely a clothesline coin.
Got stuck in one of these.1888-NFLD-5c---Something-Is-Wrong!



Spooned coin, actually.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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maybe something about the cod fishery?
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I saw that same coin on a Facebook post yesterday.


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or as though someone's been beating the rim prior to turning it into a ring.


A silver 5c, that would be a pretty small ring!
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I saw that same coin on a Facebook post yesterday.
yes I saw it too , you also confimed its real
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At least one of the people on the FB thread think it's straight up fake. I guess I don't know for sure - this drier thing is new to me.
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can still be a Dryer Coin. and it probably is. the weight could tell us a lot.
The photo title by the OP says: fake.
If it is real it is an obv 3, the lower cost coin of the 2 varieties.
when enlarging the coin ( bad resolution) it becomes obvious that the rim looks like a dryer rim.
There is no reason IMO why it could not be a Dryer Coin making the acquaintance with a new dryer within the last few years.
If someone would want to fake this 5 cent. Then it would be logical that they would make an obv 2 instead obv 3. would be the same work and a much bigger profit for the same effort.
Just saying
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That's a solid point 47P7.
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why would a 1888 nickel end up in a dryer?

This coin has probably been spooned making it look fake.
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the OP should weigh the coin and check the Diameter.
Spooned? not ruled out.
it used to happen in prisons when inmates had nothing to do. then they used a spoon and tapped the rim to make it eveny smaller. Why? they had tons of time and...."to fool future generations of collectors?) In that case, perhaps there should still be the tap marks visible on the rim? maybe not?
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If you go ahead and click on the link here for " Dryer Coin" you will see a post I just made that concerned a modern Canadian dime and what it looked like when caught between the drum and the seal. It was reduced in size some and had the rim slightly raised. This coin is a Dryer Coin.
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I'd like to know why you think this would end up in a dryer in the 1800's, Okie? The first clothes dryers were invented 1937 and they were not the clothes dryers you see today. Please explain why you think it was damaged in a clothes dryer.
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Wikipedia shows electric clothes dryers becoming available in the 1950's but not really taking off until the 1960's. Already by then NL coinage had stopped circulating.
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