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W Mint Quarter Die Pairs

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Do we have an idea of about how many die pairs are being used for each design of the recent W mintmarked quarters? They're not producing all 2 million of a given design with just one pair, right?
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 Posted 07/14/2021  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there is two die pairs per design.
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Double posted, my bad, can't delete
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I think Oldfordman is likely right, however, you could try a FOIA request and see if they have the information on that to be sure. They should be accounting for how many pairs were made, maybe not used, but made.

I know West Point uses a vertical Graebener GMP 360 TK presses, it's a single piston press, No idea on how many coins they get out of a die pair though but I could see them just running the one machine to do the 2 million strikes. it's not exceptionally high speed, so I think in theory an operator could do all 2 million off the one die pair as long as he's watching for die problems along the way and have the 2nd pair for a backup, maybe switch to the 2nd pair halfway through, and go back to the 1st pair if the 2nd pair gets messed up too bad.....

two pairs is plausible, one pair is not really because of no back up, and I think 4 pairs would probably be overkill for business strikes on that machine.

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That's what I was thinking.
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For Denver and Philadelphia die life before they went to the horizontal presses was about 750,000 coins per die pair (not sure what the die life is now.) So I would expect about 4 die pairs per design. Doing the whole run on a single press would take about 13 days running 24/7.
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It is also possible to track shipments of coining presses.

Denver had Bliss vertical strike presses that could be fitted with four heads. IIRC, the Graebener presses cannot be fitted with multiple heads, and remain single strike presses. That's useful for large coins and medals with exceptional depth of field and for striking proofs, but is inefficient for smaller circulation coins. The upside is that the strike quality tends to be a bit better than what is produced on multi-head vertical presses and horizontal presses.
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