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What is the going rate for dateless Buffalo nickels these days? $.25 each, or so?
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15-25 cents apiece on ebay. However, I did notice if the dateless were entirely mint marked, the rate is way higher, like 50-75 cents each. So some sellers are sorting outing the Philly versus mint marked and so you do have to ask if mint marked coins are in the mix and what %. I always ask and most sellers will tell you and I've been very surprised at how many lots are completely lacking mint marked coins.
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Right on.
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I couldn't help but notice that the 'dateless Buffalo' bargain bin at one of my local dealers had no mintmarked Nickels in it!
(I must have looked at a couple hundred of them!)

However, some of the dateless Buffalos I've found in rolls or from circulation are D or S coins. Funny how I've had my 1916-S, 1917-S and 1919-S Nickels for years, and never knew their dates until 2008...

I never kept a jar of vinegar in my bathroom until 2008, either. (what a coincidence!)
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I have a d mint mark that is dateless. It looks like the last digit could be a 6.

Would vinegar give me the date?

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Before anybody says it........I hate acid (reveal a date) blotches on my Buffalo nickels !....
But that's just me......
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That's why you soak the whole coin in vinegar. The coin comes out with the same even color all over, no "blotch" in the date area.
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Does the vinegar trick work on them just as well as Nic-a-Date? And how long do you soak them?
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Does the vinegar trick work on them just as well as Nic-a-Date? And how long do you soak them?
Some additional threads on Restored Date Buffalo nickels. Including techniques, finds, and pictures...

https://goccf.com/t/30170
https://goccf.com/t/36940
https://goccf.com/t/37030
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There are a number threads going around on this same subject and theres a member who goes by the name weerdsteev who restores a lot of buffs and even has a whole website on this subject. If you're really interested in making some good looking restorations I suggesst you read some of his posts or check out his website. It (and he)was a big help to me when I started playing around with dateless buffs.
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Great! Thanks Jbuck and Zoom!
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I used the vinegar trick on a Liberty nickel --came out nice---it is a 1890

before I started all I could make out was the top of the 1 and 8

took 2 week's
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Something like Nic-A-Date will make the date show up quickly, but you'll have the ugly darkened "Nic-A-Date burn" area.

Vinegar can take hours or even days for the date to show up, and it will be faint (as compared to Nic-A-Date or one of weerdsteev's full restorations), but the coin will look like a 'natural' faint-date Buffalo nickel.

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Something like Nic-A-Date will make the date show up quickly, but you'll have the ugly darkened "Nic-A-Date burn" area.
Vinegar can take hours or even days for the date to show up, and it will be faint (as compared to Nic-A-Date or one of weerdsteev's full restorations), but the coin will look like a 'natural' faint-date Buffalo nickel.


EXACTLY !!.....that "horrible ugly darkened burn area" from "Nic-A-Date" is what I was referring to.........I have a few of them that came with bulk purchases.....and it is such an ugly action to do to a coin....I'd rather have a "dateless" than do that to see the date honestly !
GO WITH VINEGAR ....SOAK EM' NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES !
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I just got 3 dateless rolls for $.15 each from my dealer with 10-15 mint mark per roll.
seems to take 6-7 days in vinegar to see the date.

1914,1918d,and some 20's sofar
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(Sigh) This whole vinegar versus Nic-a-date thing just cracks me up. If you had a dateless Buffalo nickel and you had the power to magically clone that nickel so that there were two identical nickels, and then if you had a gallon vat of virgin Nic-a-date and a gallon vat of virgin vinegar and you threw your two identical nickels into the two vats here is what would happen: Your vinegared nickel would reach some state of restoredness that you might deem to be acceptable or not acceptable in about 4 to 14 days. Your Nic-a-dated nickel would reach that SAME state in 20 to 120 seconds. At some point, the Nic-a-dated nickel will progress beyond where the vinegared nickel got to. As it progressed beyond that point, you would find it to be either better looking or worse looking than the vinegared nickel. It all depends on what appeals to YOUR eye and how long it's in the vat. Vinegar is fine if you have the patience. Nic-a-date is faster and will produce the same result if your timing is right. It is, however, cheaper to buy a gallon of vinegar than it is to buy a gallon of Nic-a-date. Also, if you put a drop of Nic-a-date on the date area, and nowhere else, you'll get an ugly coin, as eaglefoot points out. The trick, therefore, is to treat the whole coin with WHATEVER you use.
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