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1986-P Roosevelt Dime. Railroad Rim, Crack Along Edge.

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One of this 1986p dimes die cracks start around Roosevelts forehead and travels to the rim and wraps 3/4 the way around the edge of the rim. It also has a partial railroad rim on the reverse. and die cracks throughout the obverse and reverse. One crack begins on the rim and travels down into the top of roosevelts head/hair line and travels down through roosevelt and into the rim below. Does that make it spiked hair/head? I'm not sure if it was struck by a misaligned die, tilted die or if it is an off center strike? The rim is swollen where the crack runs along the edge. It seems like a keeper. What do you all think?
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1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
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Doubled one photo. Sorry. Here is the missing edge photo.
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My thoughts are that your coin is a very slight misaligned die. It is not an off-center strike because all of the design elements are fully present. It is not a Tilted die because once again, all of the design elements are present and the planchet received a full uniform strike all the way around. As far as die cracks, I can't see any in your pictures but if they are present this is completely normal.
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The crack I'm referring to on this coin appears on the collar edge reeding of the coin. On the third side of the coin.
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Sent Mike a note on this one. I've not seen this before. It might be something like a cracked collar? I've seen images of vertical cracks, but not horizontal ones?
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I see the crack on the edge but . Just a FYI: your pics are a bit dark.
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The crack I'm referring to on this coin appears on the collar edge reeding of the coin. On the third side of the coin


I now see what you are referring to on the edge of the coin that I obviously missed earlier thinking you meant die cracks on the faces of the coin (maybe they are there too, I can't make them out, and that's what you meant as well, my apologies). The edge is interesting for sure. I'm with coop on this one concerning what appears to be that defined line/indentation around the rim of your coin, odd..... Doesn't appear to be PSD/PMD to me. I'm now leaning more toward an issue with the collar as coop pointed out but still possibly a slight MAD in conjunction with a collar issue.... no idea. Like John1 also said, your pics are a bit dark. Anxious to see if Mike chimes in and what he says.
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I've found a lot of these on dimes for whatever reason, and I don't believe they are truly railroad rims/partial collars. I will be interested to hear Mike Diamond's thoughts if he weighs in.
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Like SamCoin, I've seen this edge effect on quite a few dimes. I'm wondering if it has something to do with an unusually dramatic cut-and-tear texture on the blank caused by a dulled hole in the perforated base plate (or spindle). If not entirely erased during upset, it could persist through the strike. But this is just a guess.
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Good info, thanks Mike!
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Thanks for all the information and feedback everyone. I am going to battle with my microscope and take some pictures of the exact location on the rim the crack runs off the coin face and onto the reeding edge. This was another coin I received in change from my local market.
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I was able to take, what I hope, are some better images of this flaw and its travels around this 1986p dime. It appears that every micro crack/cracks that travel to or from this dimes obverse and reverse rim attaches to it along its travels around the reeding edge. Almost like all the cracks caused a shatter effect around the edge of the collar which wraps around 80 percent of the coins edge. A split in the edge?
Further feedback by members regarding this coins error would be appreciated.

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Coindom76
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
1986-P--Roosevelt-Dime.-Railroad-Rim,-Crack-Along-Edge.
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