@coop, I remember this 1972 Lincoln date diagram you supplied above on other threads in the past. This is very good knowledge to have IMO in which to learn and apply when trying to differentiate between hub doubling, master die doubling and worthless doubling or nothing at all. Here's my take on the three pics supplied by the poster without seeing the entire obverse of each respective coin. We do know it is possible to have a coin with both hub doubling AND
Machine Doubling at the same time. I've never personally seen a 1972 Lincoln
DDO example exhibit both but not to say it couldn't happen (or it probably has happened and I just haven't personally seen one).
-The op's second picture is 100% MD without a doubt, don't really need to see anymore of this coin. The 9 (upper loop) in the date is as normal as they come.
-The op's first pic and third pic peak my curiosity. Unless the upper inside loop of the 9 (in both pics) have taken the most perfectly placed hits, and caused displacement to conform with the charted visual examples you supplied coop, I would personally like to see the entire obverse of these
Two Cents.
-The 1 of the date in the first pic definitely appears to have been affected by MD but yet it looks to me like there is a remote possibility of a split serif atop the 2 which may (if this area didn't take a hit or is just a result of some other type of
PMD) be a sign of a
DDO. With that said, it appears the -972 of the date suffered from ejection doubling but the 9, and the 2....... simply caught my attention.
-The third pic also caught my eye. Once again, the loop of the 9 is questionable in its configuration but then take a look at the tremendous thickness of the lower bar of the 2 as well as the top of the 2 which from the pics look as though 'there may have been' a split there on the 2 but has now been flattened from circulation wear? Mainly what caught my attention on this third pic is that lower bar of the 2. 1972
DDO's -002, and -008, both exhibit thicker (more material) on this lower bar of the 2. Could what we are seeing with that tremendous amount of material of this number have taken a hit from below thus causing displacement and the pushing/bunching up of the metal we see in the pic causing it now to appear distorted from what it may have originally been, a
DDO?
Sorry to have gotten so long winded here. Most likely these
Three Cents are all examples of nothing more than
PMD and/or worthless doubling. Without seeing the entire obverses, good, clear and cropped pics, we won't definitively know. But, I really like stuff such as this and trying to figure things out. It not only helps me learn but maybe my thought process(s) here, as I tried to explain to the best of my ability, will help someone else out in the future in learning and telling the differences in what may or may not be..... Thanks.
Posted 09/10/2021 07:39 am
