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Valued Member
United States
164 Posts |
I hope this is in the right section. I've just gotten into photographing coins, But I have absolutely no clue where to buy a copy stand, other then the internet. I've seen a few on ebay, But I was hoping to be able to purchase one from a store so we would not have to pay as much. (Were really tight on money right now.) Anybody know what store (Or kind of store) I might be able to purchase one from? I checked Best buy and no luck, not sure where else to look. (Any other gadget that I could use to photograph coins vertically would also work, though the only one I know of is a copy stand. If your confused, type copy stand into ebay and it shows a good idea of what I'm trying to find.) Edited by JOE 01/15/2009 05:12 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2797 Posts |
Joe, I searched for a long time to find the one I currently use. The large dept stores don't carry them and the local camera stores had large commercial models with a price tag to match. I ended up buying on-line and am somewhat pleased with what I got and the price I paid ... $75. I still keep my eye out for something a little less cumbersome. If you do a google search for photo copy stand, you will find most that are available on-line. There are also some used ones that pop up on ebay from time to time.
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Rest in Peace
United States
1729 Posts |
Years ago I rigged up a photo enlarger with a holder to accept a camera bottom socket screw and used it with success. Unfortunately I can't remember now just how I cobbled it together or even which stand I used - it was at school, and we had several enlargers available - Bogen 22, Durst, Omega, Beseler, or whatever. With digital cameras becoming popular, I'm beginning to see more and more enlargers priced to sell at yard sales; in fact, I picked up an Omega B-22 for $5.00 a few months ago (like I need a fifth enlarger sitting in my garage!). You might check flea market, pawn shops, and the like in your area. Or if you ever get into Topeka ... have I got a deal for YOU! Oh, and some older tripods could be "reversed" so that the tripod screw protruded from the bottom instead of the top. Can't remember which ones, though - sorry.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
There's nothing stopping you from getting good vertical coin shots from a tripod. Some of my best shots came from the rig pictured below. 
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Valued Member
United States
170 Posts |
Thanks for a great idea pls! I've been using a tripod much like SD shows(still have a long way to go to duplicate his pictures though). It's an old vivitar and center piece is only held by a locking ring. I've already reversed it and I can see that I now will not be restricted to a corner of the box I use as a base. It might not result in better pictures but will sure keep me from dropping a coin onto the floor.
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Moderator
 United States
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One possibility is to use a rectangular precut piece of plywood or something, to extend a "shelf" for the coin out from the table. Just get some weight on the back of the plywood to counterbalance, and you're in business. There's nothing stopping you from using a cheap, aimable floor lamp for lighting in that circumstance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1571 Posts |
Dave, I see the two lights on thepower bar, on top, and the desk lamp below. Do you use all three at the same time, or a combination, fot different light anfles? I "lifted the photo, for future refefence, but haven't had mich time to do anything about it, what with both the wifa and I takling turns getting sick, and losing our younger son, the 5 th of the momnth. Then the Santa ANA winds tore my awning off half of the porch. Last but not least, I bought the new canon Powershot A590 IS, and haven''t had time to learn to use it other than for the wind damage. Those pictures came out beautiful! Dick
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Moderator
 United States
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I use the desk lamp only for really low-angle oblique lighting, in order to highlight die cracks and such. The two hanging goosenecks are my primary lighting. I have three; sometimes I use one, sometimes all 3. The bar (it's a 48" sectino of track lighting) is on a dimmer, but I don't bother to dim it because that affects white balance.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1571 Posts |
Hello again, Superdave! I finally got well, and so is the wife!. I was able to find the bulbs, and there are several tracks, but not a flex type light around! I want to be able to "aim" the light at the focused area, and nothing available will permit this. Is there another source of the flex lights you use? I have a couple of rigid mounts , ()such as in the yard lights,) used with motion-detedtors foe aiming the light, but it is too rigid. The bulbs I have are halogen, "pure white" lights from Home Depot.I got a dimmer , also. It makes it much easier that tryibg to locate a DP-DT swith, or having to "hard-wire" the bulbs in series, or parallel, to control the amount of light. Question: Are the flexivles "plug-in, or are they hard-wired in place? It appears from the photo, that they could be plug-in. Thanks, Dick
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1571 Posts |
SuperDave, I'm back again! How have youbeen? Things are fine, here. I found, after three trips to the Home Depot, and asking several employees there, locatesd the track bar, ( I got the 24"). I was going to get the 48", and cut to size, but later found out that is a, "NO-NO"!. If I need a longer one, I know where all the stuff is! A "customer" showed me! The employees didn't know what, or where, (even with a picture of your set-up), I wanted, or where to fiind it! I have the dimmer, and noted that the color balance will be affected if I use it, sooo. I also obtained three lights, and have a desk lamp with two settings, (high, and low, Halogen with a diffuser grid, (removable). Now for the "nitty-gritty"! About how much vertical space do you need? How hot does it get, during a "photo-run"? Do you block all extra lighting, overherd, window(s) etc? I modified a tri-pod, si that it is mounted horizontally, and that gives three angular movements, (adjustments), in addition to the "leveling" of the camera, and the "lateral" positioning. I do not use, (or have) an extra lens, only the one with the 4X optical, on the Canon Powershot, A590 IS. It looks like a 100mm telephoto in place, (possibly bigger). I want to locate the "studio" next to the dual monitors on one side, and aCCTV, or another TV on the right. That will allow me to see the coin in question, and the coin being photographed,where details can be seen for the puicture. At the same time, The site info can be in view, detailing info from the database. I realize I am "rambling", but I don't know a better way to describe what I want to do, and at the same time get suggestions, in that erespect. If you don't have time to do much, if anything, NOT to worry. I have all day, (every day)!  Thanks for first of all the picture, (worth it's weight in gold), and any suggestions. Dick
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Moderator
 United States
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OK. The distance you're going to need from the camera to the coin depends on the camera. In your case, you'll find that Canon will probably be happy anywhere from "almost touching" on back, and the size of the final image will determine how far away the camera wants to be. Your goal is to get nice clear images of at least 500-600 pixels (the size of the coin itself). That is not unreasonable for your camera. Here's an example of what I've been able to do with my A720IS, with the same basic sensor as your A590:  The image you see here is smaller than the camera actually shot it, and I used no zoom. The CCF Gallery software limits me to 800 pixels in size; the original shot is 1000px. My guess is you won't need zoom, and I don't know if you can zoom while using the Macro function, anyways. The camera was 4-5" from the coin, and I had my two halogen lights relatively far apart, and tilted in so the center of the light they cast reached past the camera and directly on to the coin. I could have backed off a couple more inches, settling for a smaller final image size, but I was trying to get the most I could out of the camera. I suggest you start about 10" away, preferably with a copper coin - lustrous silver is a bear to light properly, and will frustrate you while you're learning. At that distance, play with lighting and camera settings to see what works for you, get yourself in the ballpark, and then start moving the camera closer if your images aren't big enough to satisfy you. Halogen bulbs get hot. I usually shoot no more than half a dozen images or so, and then dim the lights to allow them (and everything they're shining on) to cool down. I generally shoot at night, with no extra light around except for the computer monitor, which in my case is kinda in front of my "studio," facing away from it. Try to put only the light you choose on the coin; it makes white balance easier. So what haven't I answered? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1571 Posts |
SuperDave, I think you have covered everything, (for the moment)! This "old dog", is learning new tricks, or at least trying to, and it becomes a bit of working with what is availavle. I will be "shootint cents primarily, for varieties. None of my "silver" is worthy of a studio! It is more of learning to use tjhe new camera, and getting the light correct. I have a goal to shoot for: you have seen Kurts posts, with some of the most clear shots anywhere. That is my goal, to just come close. Thanks foe your help. i'll write down your post, and go from there. Wish me luck! Dick
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1571 Posts |
SuperDave,I have another question: This relates to a Canon TV ZOOM lens.V6x17 17-102mm1.2.0. In the past, I used it to work as an optical magnifier, usinf the reverse viewing. It came off my Magnavox color camera. It is bith manusl, and electronically adjusted. The question, can it be used with the Powershot? I haven't removed the present lens ifrom the camera, so I have no idea if the threads are even close. Any ideas, or should I just forget it as a "crutch"?
thanks, again, for your patience, Dick
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1571 Posts |
SuperDave,I have another question: This relates to a Canon TV ZOOM lens.V6x17 17-102mm1.2.0. In the past, I used it to work as an optical magnifier, usinf the reverse viewing. It came off my Magnavox color camera. It is both manusl, and electronically adjusted. The question, can it be used with the Powershot? I haven't removed the present lens ifrom the camera, so I have no idea if the threads are even close. Any ideas, or should I just forget it as a "crutch"?
Since the asking, and the investigating, I determined that this lens will not attach, as a transtion lens, but I can use it by mounting the zoom lens and placing the camera within "focusing distance,, it is possible to get some "dastnce.". I'll let you know,in case it works, and some one else can benefit from the info. Thanks, again, for your patience, Dick
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New Member
United States
3 Posts |
Depending on your area, you can find copystands or enlargers on Craigslist from photographers who are clearing out their old equipment.
I've got one that I've borrowed from my camera club.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1454 Posts |
I also use a tripod and get more than adequate shots. Copy stands are very expensive and you can achieve the same result for hundreds less with a tripod setup like Dave has. The lighting is also just as important. You can have a great rig but you don't have the correct lighting you are just fighting an uphill battle. Get a tripod and save some of the money for lighting.
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