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 Posted 10/07/2021  5:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, m8s!
Got several coins which I can't identify without your help :(
Coin #1

Bronze?
Weight 1.58 g
Diameter 11.3 mm


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 Posted 10/08/2021  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iulius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/08/2021  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that it is! Thanks a lot!
Only mine is not from Heraclius (610-641) rule, but from Phocas (602-610).
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 Posted 10/09/2021  03:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iulius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Of course not Heraclius, but it's not Phocas, with this crescent - http://goccf.com/t/199679
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 Posted 10/09/2021  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can't agree with you, because mine is very small: weight 1.58 g and diameter 11.3 mm
So small coins was minted only when Phocas ruled. http://grifterrec.rasmir.com/romaion/romaion2.html
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 Posted 10/10/2021  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both Sear and Grierson give these tiny pieces to Phocas but I think many today consider them imitative. I would catalogue it as "Egypt, imitative AE 12 nummi, type of Alexandria, c. early to mid-7th century, time of Phocas or later, possibly Arab-Byzantine, cf. Dumbarton Oaks Vol. 3.1, pp. 192ff, type 106; Sear BCV 679."

Sear states the problem in a note to his no. 679, "These pieces are of barbarous style and very crudely minted, and they never bear the name of Phocas in any recognizable form. Their attribution to this reign was suggested by Wroth in the B.M.C., and has been followed by Grierson in the D.O. Catalogue and by Hahn in M.I.B. It has been proved from hoard evidence that they belong to the early part of the Seventh Century, and it has also been suggested that some may be local irregular issues, or even products of the Persian and Muslim periods."

Although the first impression may be of a facing bust, the tiny coins always have a right-facing bust when the bust is fully discernible. This piece is not only tiny but as tiny as they come. DO lists 54 specimens, only 2 of which are 11mm with none smaller. The rest come in at 12 to 16mm.

https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=10169
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10/10/2021 04:34 am
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Kushanshah Thanks for great information!
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