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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wrote the seller to tell him this coin was not the overdate he claimed it to be. He proceeded to tell me that a coin I ad for sale for $50 was worth $25. My coin was a Grellman attributed R-5 + large cent. How do you report this to ebay? I know somehow counterfeits get reported. Can something like this be too? Coin has 1 bid for $60 and its not worth even half that. Here is the listing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/403202365610 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If you scroll to the bottom, you can find the "Report this item" button.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You're welcome. I reported it as well. Not sure exactly how reporting works and how long it takes for the ad to be taken down, but hopefully it does something.
Suffering from bust half fever. Want to learn how to attribute early half dollars by die variety? Click Here: http://goccf.com/t/434955Shoot me a PM if you are looking to sell bust halves. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Reporting it does nothing but open up an investigation, not always by the most competent people. Don't hold your breath.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3156 Posts |
so ebay did nothing about this. Disappointing |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
They need multiple reports, or perhaps even a single report from a moderator of a forum like this.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't see the listing as being fraudulent. It isn't what he says it is, but his images are good enough to clearly show that it is NOT that variety, or in the condition he describes. I think it is more "wishful thinking" and fraud was not intended.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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One look at another of his offerings is pretty suspect as well. 40 over 41 dime? https://www.ebay.com/itm/403215501302Not a good track record either, even his feedback shows a fake 42/41 dime sold and aged faked baseball cards previously completed. I'd stay far away from this fellow, too bad the report button really has little consequences any more. Only so much ebay can do, he will just keep coming back again and again, even if under a new account. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
10/12/2021 8:37 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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so the coin ws not a counterfeit so I really didn't know what to call this besides fraudulent. When someone is portraying something he or she is selling as something its not I would call that fraud. Trying to profit on someone else not knowing what to look for in the overdate and the condition would be that by definition in my book.
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Forum Dad
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When someone is portraying something he or she is selling as something its not I would call that fraud. There is no way to prove fraud by looking at an ebay listing alone. There is one very important thing that must be present for it to be fraud..... Intent. If he truly believes it is what he says it is, it's not fraud. |
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Moderator
United States
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If he truly believes it is what he says it is, it's not fraud.  |
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Forum Dad
United States
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I took care of both listings.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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so if seller believes what they are selling initially is an overdate coin, but is told with absolute certainty that its not but doesn't change the listing then that's not deceit or fraud?
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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You don't have to prove it was fraud as ebay will remove the listing for being a "Misidentified Listing" The seller can then relist it using the proper description if they so choose. They don't usually relist though. This seller actually had four listings removed for the same thing and so far none have been relisted. |
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Forum Dad
United States
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so if seller believes what they are selling initially is an overdate coin, but is told with absolute certainty that its not but doesn't change the listing then that's not deceit or fraud? Not if he still believes it to be true. Fraud requires intent. |
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Posted 10/08/2021 6:02 pm
