1998 P Lincoln Cent With Struck Through Planchet? During Blanking Press?

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CoinAddiction New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 7:00 pm Hi everyone. Looking for opinions again :) I will share my theory but please let me know what you all think. I found this 1998 penny and it looks to me like something was possibly wrapped around the metal before it entered the blanking press (meaning the planchet was struck through before reaching the die when it was pressed and cut from the sheet) I was told by someone I sent pictures to that it was pliers or cutters. because of a few things I wanted to look farther into it. My reasonings: * the "strike through" is not wide enough to be pliers except some specialty pliers but would take a lot of leverage to do this. Also if it were possible with pliers, cutters, vise, etc. it would surely show scrapes or some kind of damage in the area and would flatten the devices. IMO the devices were pressed after the "trenches" were in the planchet in hand you can follow it all the way around the coin. Possibly like it states on error-ref website under "upset mill errors: Squeezed-in debris (upset mill inclusion) (ES May/June 2006; CW 9/6/2010) Foil-like metal wraps around edge onto one or both faces e.g. Copper foil on nickels (not from improper annealing) Metal wire wraps around edge onto one or both faces Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you all :) Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34430 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 8:07 pm @coin, that really really looks like damage to me. The fact that the flat spots line up obv to rev adds further credence to this having been done by tin snips or wire cutters of some sort. Let's see what others say though. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
CoinAddiction New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 9:21 pm @Spence Thanks for checking it out. I don't know why but this one really caught my attention. I would have easily dismissed it if there was evidence of being pressed after strike. I could easily see something being pressed into it with a vise if the devices were not showing so clear and not flattened through the bottom of the indention. I will certainly take your reply into account along with a couple more before I throw it back to the bank :) Once again, much appreciated sir... Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34430 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 9:25 pm Always glad to help! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97904 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 9:37 pm I'll agree with Spence. The 'dent' looks deeper near the rim than it does towards the middle. all signs of the devices are obliterated near the rim, but some start showing up in the middle which indicates that some sort of hinged tool was used to create this mark. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
CoinAddiction New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 9:45 pm well people need to stop doing that! lol Thanks for your replies :) Report this Post to the Staff
Bumpkin Pillar of the Community United States 509 Posts	Posted 10/09/2021 11:42 pm One more observation here in addition to the previous replies. The area I circled on the edge/rim of your coin shows this area to have a very slight outward bulge on its outer perimeter. This tells me it happened outside of the mint and that some type of pressure was applied to your coin, post mint, in this area which caused this bulge as minuscule as it may be. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 97904 Posts	Posted 10/10/2021 12:31 am Good eye Bumpkin! Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 10/10/2021 3:26 pm I don't know what type of tool did this, it wasn't cutters, they would have sharp v shaped blades, it's like it was some type of pinchers. Report this Post to the Staff
CoinAddiction New Member United States 37 Posts	Posted 10/10/2021 4:16 pm @Cujohn That is what has me puzzled. Trying to figure out what could have been used. I have used hand tools for 40 years.. I also cannot imagine how I would press anything into a penny without flattening the design of the devices. To be honest the shape and depth reminds me of a zip tie.. This was originally why I believed the "trench" was made on the planchet before the strike. What tool could do this so delicately AFTER the strike? The way my mind works is something hard enough to press into a coin would flatten the devices or cut into them if it had teeth. Then there is the fact that the cut is completely square and the coin is not bent Figuring out what could do this is my priority goal atm..lol Edited by CoinAddiction 10/10/2021 4:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 10/10/2021 5:19 pm Ya I'm right there with you on the hand tools. This is defiantly PMD. I remember using a pruning sheer that had one flat blade, then the other was the sharp cutting blade. This does look like a wire tie, maybe both blades have two cutting edges? Report this Post to the Staff
allcoinsaregood Pillar of the Community United States 808 Posts	Posted 10/10/2021 5:47 pm Obvious PMD. Report this Post to the Staff
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