1982 Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC Small Date Copper Doubled Die Reverse / DDR ?

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Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 5:42 pm I found this penny in my pile but can't find any reference to it. It looks a bit like WDDR-002 from Wexler's site or DDR-01 from VarietyVista, but both of those are listed as zinc and this one weighs 3.02g. Guidance from the experts, please? Edited by Krisalane 10/15/2021 6:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 7:00 pm I am not seeing a DDR, what attribution number do you think it might be? John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 7:08 pm I found this penny in my pile but can't find any reference to it. It looks a bit like WDDR-002 from Wexler's site or DDR-01 from VarietyVista, but both of those are listed as zinc and this one weighs 3.02g. Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 7:29 pm Here are some other pics if it helps... The D STA and E*PL are wider and longer thank on other coins I have. Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 7:40 pm And here is a comparison with the same year, mint etc... Again, I'm a super newbie to this. Is there something I'm missing? Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 11:12 pm Your coin has circulation flattening/damage, along with some Die Deterioration. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Moderator United States 94786 Posts	Posted 10/15/2021 11:20 pm Could be from over polishing that area resulting in the devices are not as tall and wider. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin 7070 type set coin count: 51/76 Uncirculated American Silver Eagles My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection Sacagawea Dollars Innovation Dollars Eisenhower-Dollars Kennedy-Half Dollars Washington-Quarters Roosevelt-Dimes Buffalo-Nickels 1938-2005 Jefferson-Nickels Lincoln-Cents Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/16/2021 01:44 am The weakness on States ic common. The opposite side of the bust is getting full metal from the planchet, but the reverse suffers. The devices on a doubled die will be enlarged fully. Note on the weakness, the full height is missing. So as mentioned earlier, that area didn't get the full metal there. If the planchet is even slightly lite, that area will not have the full strike up on those devices. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/16/2021 1:15 pm Here is what you need to see on this DDR. I don't see it on your coin: Your coin is normal. (Rare to see these as I think I can only think of less than 5 posted here before) Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 10/16/2021 1:56 pm to the CCF! Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/16/2021 6:04 pm Thanks so much for that Coop! I've been studying CoopHome, but wow this is confusing! I'll keep trying :) Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/16/2021 6:07 pm So, if I read correctly, the larger D STA is from Die Deterioration or over polishing, correct? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 10/17/2021 12:12 am No that's hub doubling on the die. That is called "spread ". Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/17/2021 02:38 am I'm sorry Coop, I meant from my picture here... what causes the top coin to have a wider and longer D ST than the bottom coin? Both are same year, mint etc... Are you saying that is hub doubling? Edited by Krisalane 10/17/2021 02:39 am Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 10/17/2021 04:06 am When comparing coins,you need to use the same date and same mint mark as well as same condition. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Krisalane Valued Member United States 79 Posts	Posted 10/18/2021 08:42 am Thanks John1. Unfortunately, I only have one copper philly sd so I am comparing it to a zinc philly sd. But still, the D ST are longer and wider than the surrounding letters on the same coin. What is this error/variety called or what causes the letters to be fatter and longer, but not as thick as other letters? I've looked through all the comparison photos I can find here, DD, copper coins, variety vista and error-ref, and the only reference I can find to this type of lettering has been on other coins listed as DDR. I'm sure, I'm not that lucky, but I'd like to figure out what I'm looking at and why it's the way it is. Is there anywhere else you'd suggest I try? Thanks again. Report this Post to the Staff
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1982 LMC Small Date Copper DDR?