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Advice, Best Way To Sell?

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 Posted 01/18/2009  03:30 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sqdnguns to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greetings All,

I happened upon this forum while trying to research some coins, specifically an 1853 Coronet Head Quarter Eagle, 1914 Indian Head Quarter Eagle and a 1854 Small Indian Head $1 gold. They all appeared to be minted in Philly since I see no mint mark. They all appear to be in exceptional condition but what do I know.

A close friend would like me to sell these on ebay for her, she came across them while going through her late husbands stuff. He also had a ton of other coins that I have not gone through yet but these three caught my attention due to their condition.

On to my questions(s).

What is the best way for me to get a current value for these?

Is there a pretty good market on ebay for them?

Should I just go to some coin dealers and take the best offer?

I want to get the best value for them, she can use the money now that her husband has passed on.

I would appreciate any advice.

Thank you!
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 Posted 01/18/2009  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community. The answers to your questions are easy, the right thing to do...not so much.

First, the amount of money you're going to realize from selling these coins is directly proportional to the amount of time and work you want to put into selling them. Selling them to a dealer is quick, easy and convenient, and guarantees you won't get much more than half of what they're worth if you maximize their exposure in the proper venue.

Second, the value of these gold pieces varies greatly by grade. None of the three are particularly rare; if heavily circulated, you'll only realize a hundred or two apiece. If they're Uncirculated (Mint State), values could range into the thousands of dollars each, depending on the grade. Coins are graded on the Sheldon Scale of 1-70, ranging from Poor 01 (are you sure it's a coin?) to MS70 (flawless under significant magnification). Mint State coins start at MS-60. With any of these three coins, once you get past MS-62 or so, you're getting into serious money territory. Using the 1914 as an example - in MS-62, value (in the real world, not some published price list) is something around $1200 (in a reputable TPG's slab). One grade up, MS-63, and you're looking at $8000-9000 for the same coin.

Like I say, value varies greatly by grade.

So, one of the things you're going to need to get your best price for these coins is to have them graded. This is optional, but most prospective buyers would want to see them encapsulated by one of the three major Third-Party Grading Services - PCGS, NGC or ANACS. More on this later.

Third, you're obviously going to get the best price for these by exposing them to the largest audience of potential buyers. This means ebay, for all but the very most valuable of coins. Are you an experienced ebay seller, with good Feedback? This could count against you if not - people won't risk a large sum of money on a new seller offering gold coins. That screams, "scam!"

Take stock of things. Are you an experienced ebay seller? Can you take quality, gradable pictures of these coins? By that, I mean this:

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...or something fairly close. Do you have some time to invest into maximizing your return? It'll cost you between $25-100 per coin (depending on speed and vendor) to have one of the TPG's grade these coins, and the turnaround ranges from a few days to a few weeks (time costs money - how fast do you want to go?).

If these coins are truly excellent, a higher-level venue such as Heritage Auctions, the largest in the business, is in order. Another possibility is a consignment with an established ebay seller - look no further than CCF's owners, who sell on ebay as "Bobby131313," for this possibility. They won't do you wrong.

It's most important for you to now answer the question you asked,


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 Posted 01/19/2009  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sqdnguns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SuperDave, thanks so much for the detailed reply.

I recommended to my friend today that we have her coins graded but she does not want to send them off. I assured her they would be safe but she wants to have it done in person while we wait. She is a bit stubborn in her old age............

I am an experienced eBayer, GREAT rating over the years, so there will be no problem selling these online.

I'll search a bit more to see abut getting these graded for her. I'll get some pictures of them tomorrow, was going to tonight but I have to charge the battery in the digicam. Once I have pics, I'll post a link of them here for some feedback.

Once again, thanks!
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 Posted 01/19/2009  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I assured her they would be safe but she wants to have it done in person while we wait


Depending on where you live, the only way you're going to get this done would be to attend a pretty large show, AND know that one of the top three TPG's will have a booth doing grading, AND that they would do gold during that time.

Dave pretty much hit the nail on the head with everything he posted. I think before we can make more conclusions, we would need the pics. If you are sitting on high grade examples, we can help make the case for you towards sending them in..
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My first advice for you would be to register at Heritage Auctions (ha.com), and gain access to their database of completed sales. It's the best grading comparison tool around. Furthermore, you can then show your friend some of the half-million dollar coins sold there, and let her know that those went through the same TPG process you're suggesting for her. People ship coins worth six figures to these companies literally every day. Her caution is understandable, but once she understands how important a part of numismatics the reputable TPG's are, I suspect she'll come around.

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When we see the coins the point may be moot, but I would think that if she doesn't want to send them away for grading, then you would only have a few choices. One would be to try to increase her understanding of the grading process and the fact that her items would be insured along the way. Hard, especially if the combination of age, need for quick money/sale, and emotional or psychological issues are in play. I have been in a similar situation, in which I sell for other people and I find they are happiest when I can get them to agree on disclosing their financial expectations. I use this as a basis for all of my actions. If they really don't care and are aware of what can happen--their item sells for less than they think it's "worth"--I sell the item at auction and never look back. If they say they need to get X amount, I try at X amount or higher with the Buy It Now/Best Offer option. I have also made purchases that met or exceeded their expectations, so that I wouldn't be pressured to sell for less than I thought I could get for something. I don't know what I would do in your situation, except maybe find out what her expectations were, and if I could satisfy them and still have the opportunity to have the coins reach their full potential value.
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I recommended to my friend today that we have her coins graded but she does not want to send them off.


If she absolutely doesn't want to "send them off", then that not only excludes third party grading. You can't sell them on ebay. Unless you require local pickup, then you might as well do craigslist.

You have been given great advice by the others. Selling a valuable item to someone on ebay is much riskier than sending coins to a reputable third party grading service.

But you've got to get a better handle on the grade of the coins to determine if paying to have them graded is worthwhile.


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Depending on where you live, the only way you're going to get this done would be to attend a pretty large show, AND know that one of the top three TPG's will have a booth doing grading, AND that they would do gold during that time.

AND realize that you will be paying $100 to $200 per coin for the grading instead of the $20 to $30 you would pay if you sent them in. And if you do the "While you wait" method and they DON'T come back with high grades, you will have spent almost as much on having them graded as they will sell for and you come out with little or nothing.
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My advice is to put them on craigslist for a couple of weeks with the price you want listed. If nobody is interested at that price, then you can explore other options, and you have lost nothing by trying. Note that this is more likely to have success if you live in a medium or large city and not a rural area.
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