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Scored a bag of old coins and found this gem. The coin has 180 degree die rotation.   Edited by Quinn27 11/06/2021 11:41 pm
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Canada
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So, the top of the queen's head is at the side of the coin that lines up below 1890? If so, then yes, I think you've got yourself a serious die rotation.
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Canada
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Agreed, if the coin like an americain coin I think we call it "medal" when the coin has an upside down portrait. And 180° would be a very nice fined. There is not to many listed in my Charlton and I think some have mayb 1-2 ever certified.
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 Quinn27. Your coin was struck in "coin" alignment. Modern Canadian coins are struck in "medal" alignment for comparison. Take another look and let us know.  . Your coin is intended to be opposite what modern Can. coins are. A normal coin, no rotation.
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Edited by loonielewy 11/07/2021 07:54 am
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The coin is indeed in the American coin style alignment. The head of the queen is below the 1890 date on the other side.
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Good for you!  to the CCF!
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Canada
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My bad got my terminology backwards. Does anyone know if there is any of these certified? I imagine this is worth a pretty penny if real.
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That is a Newfoundland coin. Up until 1908 they used the coinage alignment so that 5 cents has the correct alignment.
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Quote: The coin is indeed in the American coin style alignment. That means it's normal. No die rotation. Quote: I imagine this is worth a pretty penny if real. It's real but no added value.
"We are poor little lambs...who have lost our way...Baa...Baa...Baa"
In memory of those members who left us too soon... In memory of Tootallious March 31, 1964 - April 15, 2020 In memory of crazyb0 July 27 2020. RIP. In memory of T-BOP Oct. 12, 1949 - Jan. 19, 2024
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Canada
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If you use Coins and Canada........die axis is medal wrong.......fun find none the less!
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"Up until 1908 they used the coinage alignment"
There were a few post 1908 1 cent newfoundlands in the bag as well with the Medal alignment. This is what threw me for a bit of a loop. I knew I had better come here before getting too excited.
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I was looking at coins and Canada, the do have this as medal alignment. So it's just an error in there site?
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Quote: I was looking at coins and Canada, the do have this as medal alignment. So it's just an error in there site? Wouldn't be the first time, or presumably the last time they have made mistakes on that site. For its general-purpose, it is fine, but when it comes to error or variety listings one should never take the info on there literally without doing some background research first to back it up. Most times the listings were created by run-of-the-mill collectors that lack the provided research/documentation to create an accurate listing. At one point I was going to reach out and help overhaul their listings with correct information, but honestly, I don't think it would make a difference because they continue to add false info even after others have tried to help. That is what happens when a website allows anyone to create a listing, just like how wiki allows users to create information without fact-checking first, you get many mixed listings with real ones and ones that should have been further looked into prior to submission.
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Wrecked - Use your Charlton Catalouge for reference. Newfoundland coins are listed at the front and shows that all Queen Victoria 5 cents are coinage axis.
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Iv been out for a long walk this morning with my son. Normally I would use my Charlton but I don't have it on hand:p
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