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1941-S Lincoln Wheat Cent (I'm Seeing S/S/S?) Nothing In VV For It?

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 Posted 11/12/2021  11:34 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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1941-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-I'm-Seeing-S/S/S?-Nothing-In-VV-For-It?

Trying to figure out how to get more clearer image with my set up?
I think you all can see what I'm see in'?
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11/12/2021 11:36 am
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 Posted 11/12/2021  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you see the same event happening on the tops of the date devices, then it is Machine Doubling.

Try making a side by side of the normal mintmark for that year and see if the shape of the mintmark was altered by Machine Doubling.

Keep in mind a RPM will enlarge the device, Machine Doubling will reduce the size of a mintmark.
Take a look at these listings by V.V to helps show something:
http://www.varietyvista.com/02a%20L...1SRPM001.htm
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Note stage 'A' and 'B' on the tops of the mintmarks. You see one like your on the top of the mintmark on stage 'A', but on the stage 'B' it the tops of the devices are different? Why? Well that area is not part of the RPM. The RPM is west. Note both coins are showing the same "west" RPM. But the stage 'A' coin has Machine Doubling on the top of the mintmark and probably the date as well. The mintmark is a separate step in die creation. So if you see the same doubling direction on the mintmark and the date, it is 100% of the Machine Doubling.

Knowing these detective skills will help solve issues quicker.
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11/12/2021 12:14 pm
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since the doubling/tripling does not appear on the digit 4, I'm inclined to think this is an RPM
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Well this mintmark may have taken a hit on that area. Note that the lower part of the mintmark is not showing the same thing?
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11/12/2021 12:44 pm
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@nick10.That's why I though it was an RPM because I didn't see the same on the digits of the date? I got what Coop is saying to watch for the same on the date but it's not their..I'm a novice so I'll take my cue from the experts and move to the next Error in my pile! Thanks foe the Lesson Coop! Sarge
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 Posted 11/12/2021  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But it is a small mintmark for that year. There were also a large mintmark as well.
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People watch for the small ones, but on PCGS they make no mention of either of these. How to tell the differences? Size of the mintmarks:
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