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1849 California Half Dollar Model Grade And Any Info?

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Hi, I just came upon this 1849 California Model Half dollar. I cant find much info on these except a few auctions on heritage for half eagle models. It seems like is AU at least. Any info or web sites on these would be appreciated. Thank all!
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 Posted 11/21/2021  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@roach, can you please add the weight of this piece to the thread? Thx.
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Very interesting, I've never seen or heard of these.

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Looks like your coin was part of a set made by Joseph Moore in Birmingham England. Yours can be seen in the lower left.

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Joseph Moore, Medal Designer (1817-1892)

Born in Birmingham, Joseph Moore was apprenticed at a young age to diesinker Thomas Halliday. He also trained under Samuel Lines, another diesinker and engraver. After completing his apprenticeship he began his own business as a buttonmaker, winning a prize at the 1851 London Exhibition for his work. While engaged in his apprenticeship and working as a buttonmaker, he studied in his own time to gain the skills of a medallist.

He was a designer of medals principally, but first came to public attention when he created a 'model penny' in 1844. This penny was so popular with the public that the coin diesinker at The Royal Mint felt compelled 'to advertise the fact that [the pennies] were the result of private enterprise and not a government issue' (Forrer, 1909). For some time he was in a partnership, Allen and Moore, thought by some to be the best medallists of the later nineteenth century.

Moore created some of the dies used by Heaton and Sons to produce coins and tokens. He is credited as the designer of the penny and halfpenny tokens issued by Professor Holloway (A660-A672) in 1857 and 1858. Sweeny argues that Holloway's tokens were produced in Heaton and Sons' Birmingham establishment, on the basis of cardboard impressions taken from dies bearing Holloway's head that were donated to The Birmingham Museum and Art Gallery by The Mint, Birmingham. Moore died in 1892.

References:
Sweeny, J.O. (1981). A Numismatic History of the Birmingham Mint, p.240, 245.
Forrer, L. (1909).Biographical Dictionary of Medallists, Vol. IV, pp.136-141.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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Nice detective work numismatic student!
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It weighs 0.51 grams, and looks to be brass. Any idea on its value?
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It is gilt bronze. It was probably made as a model piece to sell the design to the US mint or some other private issuer in California. The gold rush probably was making news in England. Since this is one in a set, it will probably be tough to value on its own.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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The full set sold in 2007 for $920. Since this is the smallest coin in the set maybe $100 to someone who is interested in this piece. There probably is a set missing this coin since you have it, so if you can find the person with the set missing this coin, they would be likely your best customer.

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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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