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I am starting to put together a US type set that I made with 56 different coins. The older ones will be acceptable in EF-40 or higher. Which ones will be the tricky ones to get and what price would you estimate for the 4 main types of large cents?

Any other coins that will be pretty hard to find and or expensive? ($250 or more)?
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Draped bust large cent in XF will run you 900-1300 in the most common dates I think, classic head will be more. The other two aren't that pricy.

Any draped bust coin aside from the half dollar will run into the thousands in XF grade, aside from the half dollar which should only be $1500 in XF.

Twenty Cent Pieces are not that bad if you get a common date, but pricey if you don't.

Bust quarters of the large variety are also expensive, can easily be over $1000 in XF.

Small variety isn't that bad, should run you about $350-400 for a decent XF.

Seated and Trade are also expensive and the trade will be $200 in XF, seated around $500 I think. Best to get these slabbed as they're counterfeited often.

Any old gold (pre-classic head) is extremely rare and well in the thousands.

Lastly, I'd say that Barber halves can get pretty expensive in AU and above.

If you need any more help, go ahead and ask more questions!

All the others won't be much trouble.
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Well, I am not including gold, or Trade dollars so no issue there. I think those large cents might be killers though Are they hard to find, or just expensive?
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Both : (

Nice classic heads are especially hard to find problem-free.
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The Half Cents are not nearly as bad, though an XF draped bust can run you a few hundred.
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Check http://www.pcgs.com/prices/

You will find many coins over $250 in XF.

There are a good number of type coins that are
into thousand and 10's of thousands in XF.

The toughest is the draped bust small eagle 1/2 dollar 1796-1797
which comes up for sale a few times a year in all grades. PCGS lists AG 3 at $23K and XF 40 at $85K.

Barbers in XF are probably rarer than mint state. Grab a nice looking circulated Barber coin if you find it.
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Check http://www.pcgs.com/prices/

You will find many coins over $250 in XF.


Although the actual prices listed there bear no relationship to real-world sales data, guides like artworks12 mentions are pretty good indicators of relative rarity. PCGS did their homework with regard to scarcity and has years of grading data to back it up. That's a point we tend to overlook with the "price guide" that we love to hate.
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Interesting you mention this because I was reading a Coin World (Jan. 26th issue pg. 36) advertisement for Type Coins last night. You pick the grades you want for each type and the price is noted. Here's the prices listed for Large cents in XF:
Draped Bust: $660
Classic Head: $800
Coronet Head: $92
Braided Hair: $53
These prices are for common dates of THEIR choice and seem pretty reasonable for XF, problem free coins.

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Well, I have cut out a lot of the super high ones by including draped bust only for the cent and Half Cent. Also, am only including major differences. For example I need a Shield nickel. Rays, no rays, doesn't matter. I am hoping to put this together for $6k.
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Wow, a 6k budget, now that sounds like fun! Good luck :D
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A solution to the draped bust problem:

Find one that is slightly corroded in a few spots but slabbed, often grading companies will just bodybag these and place them in problem holders just because of a few tiny spots of corrosion.

And people, not knowing better, won't pay much more for them than a seriously corroded coin.

At least, I think it would be a good idea.
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Yeah, that's 6k over 6 years though. Considering price increases, it might end up higher. So far, I only have 1 of 56 coins.
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Which coin do you have?

And how much money do you have on hand?

Common dates shouldn't increase THAT much, I'd personally get the draped bust silver first, because those are likely to increase a lot more than everything else.
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Currently, I have the Liberty nickel in the correct grade. When I get paid tomorrow, I will then have $250 on hand. Mostly, I will be able to acquire when I get my tax refunds each year.
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Another thing you could do is to start with lower grades for the tougher ones, then gradually replace them...

Would be more fun!
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These prices are for common dates of THEIR choice and seem pretty reasonable for XF, problem free coins.

The question is, at those prices will the be problem free coins? The Draped, Coronet, and Braided probably will be, I'll about guarantee the Classic WON'T be. Or if it is problem free it will be more like a low end VF.
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