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Is This Toning Natural? (1890 Morgan Dollar)

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My collection is pretty new. First one I've ever owned like this.
greens,red,and yellows. Is this naturally toned? It's a 1890-P btw
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 Posted 12/03/2021  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Always remove coin from a 2x2 before taking a photo.
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Noted for future reference. Thanks
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Can we see the other side
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Of course not much to look at in comparison though.
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We always need to see both sides of the coin
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Just a FYI: pics are a tad out of focus, and it is best to take pics straight on, not at an angle. Not good at toning ID, but to me it looks like an old cleaning gone bad. Not NT.
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Yes, I do see evidence of past cleaning. Would like to see straight-on/vertical photos taken under soft lighting to better assess the toning matter.
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The marks in the field behind the head look like tooling marks to hide something. Also note the numerous pimples there and on the reverse as well. That is a red flag for me to require further testing. What does this coin weigh? Have you tried a tissue test or ice cube test?
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I forget how the ice cube test is done,would you refresh my memory please?
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The ice cube test? Well, if done at home, begin by placing water (in a suitable container) into your fridge freezer...
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Nothing super scientific about the ice cube test. Since silver is a great conductor of heat energy, an ice cube placed upon its surface should start to melt immediately. Just note how much more quickly ice melts on a genuine silver coin compared to one that isn't.
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Could you give us the weight of the coin, please.
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The icecube test was the first test I ever tried for silver. It was a silver spoon I had laying around and almost immediately started to melt into the ice cube. I still have it laying around somewhere. No idea where I got it or when.
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Could you give us the weight of the coin, please.

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I say Natural Toning. Obverse may have had a small wipe, but the reverse looks original.
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