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1877 Seated Liberty Horizontal S. Can Anyone Tell Me What These Mint Errors Are ?

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 Posted 12/16/2021  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please explain what you consider errors so that we can help you.
If you are referring to the mm, that would be a variety, not an error.
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Will need to see a better, sharper close up picture of the mint mark in question.

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https://www.PCGS.com/coinfacts/coin...izontal/5507

Here's PCGS image to what it suppose to appeared to be.
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Agree, sharp close up of the MM area needed.



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The mint mark isn't my question. It's these other errors all over.
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They almost look like old scratches to me
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I just see a series of scratches and hits.
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Even sharper pics, please.
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The mint mark isn't my question.
Everything else on your coin is damage, so the RPM would be the only aspect that would add any value. The rotated upper right serif of S is pretty distinct on these and I see no sign of it on your coin. What makes you think it's the S over horizontal S?

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These marks are most definitely not made at the mint. They are all PMD.
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Learn to collect "error free" high quality coins first, study the series you like most before getting involve with errors.
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I personally don't believe any of that is scratches, the words wouldn't flow with them if that was the case. I didn't come here to ask for debunking of anything I brought it here for insight and knowledge which seems to be hard to come by here. All three coins I've posted had these same responses. Thanks but no thanks. I thought a coin forum would be a good way to learn. All I'm getting out of this is nonsense. The coin clearly shows signs of what I'm told it doesn't. Clearly has errors that scratching wouldn't cause but those are scratches. I know what scratches look like these look different or it wouldn't be here. I collect the ones I want to collect, not one to just do as I'm told, sorry but thanks for more of the same. Seems to be the same comments from the same people.i post the best coin I've seen and get told it's junk silver. I bring error coins and get told they aren't. I thought coming here with these I'd learn something about the coins instead of learning how our society shows evidence of decline as a whole. Thanks for all the negative comments, it's much appreciated. It did me alot of good bringing my questions to these forums full of negative thinkers.
I can get the same responses out of people that have no knowledge of numismatics. Thanks for all the help. It has been an experience for sure. I'll take my coins elsewhere to people that might have a clue and are a little personable.
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The members here have been very kind in sharing there knowledge, you apparently think you are smarter then all of them and more knowledgeable about errors. As everyone stated if you don't believe there opinions send your coins to a third party grader. If I though I had a coin worth tens of thousands it's the first thing I would do and then come back and prove all the vary knowledge people here wrong. When the coins come back not what you expect then you can write a very nice note to the grading service and tell them that they are wrong as well. No one wants to here that a coin they think is super rare that it's not but 99% of the time this will be the case. Sorry I/we could not be of more help to you.
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In other words, you're only interested in opinions that are the same as yours? I respectfully agree with everyone else's general conclusion that your "errors" are just damage and that the only area of interest would be the mintmark, which you haven't shown a legible image of. Good luck from all of us "negative thinkers". You won't find a more experienced and helpful group of dealers and collectors anywhere, believe me.
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If I understand this correctly, you've concluded that you have "mint errors", so you're here for "insight and knowledge" about what specific "mint errors" these are, and anything else is "debunking". I don't see any negative comments here. No one can give you insight/knowledge about something that doesn't exist on your coin, nor would it appear that anyone can budge you off your foregone conclusion. I've seen these kinds of threads probably hundreds of times over the years. They all go the same direction - agree with me or you all don't know what you're talking about. That's not a good approach to learning anything. I'll reiterate that the main issue worth pursuing with this coin is whether or not it's really an S over horizontal S, so please demonstrate why you think it is with a clearer closeup image of the MM.
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