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1957-D Lincoln Cent One Is MS-67+ PCGS See If The Look Different

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Last one today! this is why trying to submit is so hard.

Sorry first pictures are a little fuzzy
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First picture set pixelated and blurry, hard to see much.
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Here are better pics of first coin or I hope so
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should remove the first set of pics. it will confuse people.. the last set has a few hits, that would hold it back.
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The scratches on Lincoln's shirt put it down.
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I'm basing this on the second set of photos.

on the jacket collar there are several small ticks as well as a mark on the shoulder. on the reverse you have some weakness in the strike at PLU, a scratch across the top of the right wheat stock. all of these together would preclude this from MS67

your photos look like two different coins. just one marker that stands out is a pretty good nick on N in CENT that is not showing in the second photo of the reverse. not sure which one is the real one. there are several other differences I'm not going to mention. very strange
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on the jacket collar there are several small ticks as well as a mark on the shoulder.


I see the marks you are talking about and often wondered what they really are. I see those marks on a lot of BU coins. When I turn the coin sideways, they appear as raised bumps or tiny bits of extra copper (for lack of a better way to say it) possible clash marks. It seems contact marks would leave an indentation? I just don't know. The second coin is mine. I don't do you guys' justice with my pics. The second coin is a remarkably beautiful coin in hand unlike any I have seen. Would the luster and color offset a tiny mark or two? When I go to photograde on the PCGS website or type in PCGS ms-67 1957-d Lincoln Cent. Th only picture I get is one that says ms-67+ and that THE picture I posted. The first coin ms-67+. If you had to look a couple of times to decide, then I am somewhat close.
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Here's the thing...these are marks that were on the planchet, the date is notorious for a weaker strike so the pressure wasn't great enough to fill the die completely and remove the marks on the planchet when it was struck at the mint.

There are also some of those marks on the high points of Lincolns face.

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These marks on your coin are contact marks/bag marks/hits as you will, made after leaving the die, or the mint. There is also a pretty deep hit west of Lincoln near 8 o'clock on the obverse.


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Here's the thing...these are marks that were on the planchet, the date is notorious for a weaker strike so the pressure wasn't great enough to fill the die completely and remove the marks on the planchet when it was struck at the mint.

There are also some of those marks on the high points of Lincolns face.


Thanks KY, I feel like I am coming along (albeit slowly). Believe it or not those were my thoughts before I posted the coin. There is a significant hit below liberty, but that mark is enlarged quite a bit. The coin has a certain color to it that draws you to it. This cannot be represented in a picture. In fact, I am on my 900th roll of bu's and I have not run across this color except in this roll. Even my wife (who is wondering what the heck I am doing in the first place) glanced at the coin and made a comment. The glare of the coin hides all the imperfections. The first pictures are front and back of PCGS coin. The big hit on the N is the PCGS coin. The second set of pictures go together, I change the color background of the reverse to look more like the PCGS picture. I messed up this thread from the start. (sorry)
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