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Pillar of the Community
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What the obverse looks like.
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Nope. That is fabricated error, a coin sandwich. There is no way a fully formed "rim" can cross the fields, since that requires a collar die. Usually, the 2nd strike obliterates the first entirely, except where preserved in the devices.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's a conversation piece, nothing more.
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Just looking for some feed back. The letters on the edges are raised not incurred. The [1 cent] at 3:00 is raised. The backwards C and A in CANADA are raised.
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Raised, or not, explain how the minting process would put elements on a fully formed rim? It's not possible.
Being pressed by a 'soft die' could easily do that.
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SPP in the near future I'm going to send some coins for you to zap and let you see it in hand. I'm starting to think it is a fabricated coin!! I have to say it sure looks good tough.
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No zapping required. Think of how much pressure it takes to strike a coin. Then, with the collar engaged, the deformation can be impressive. Here are two example, with the 2nd strike off-centre.   And, when double struck in collar, the 2nd strike almost obliterates everything...  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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 I am now convinced that this coin isn't fabricated for these reasons. #1 - the D.G is raised like normal #2 - the font is in the proper order and not backwards #3 - its impossible other than the die some how to put it there. #4 - the D.G.REGINA Follow on the rim #5 - Try to figure out what actually happened to this coin. |
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 .REG from REGINA, Proper font not backwards and raised |
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 ELIZ from ELIZABETH proper font, raised and not backwards |
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100% fabrication. Do a search here on CCF on 'soft dies'.
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This is very interesting. As usual SPP, you never disappoint!  |
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The reverse really supports SPP's opinion. IMO
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Here is a legit double struck coin, with the 2nd strike about 10% off-centre. It is about as close as an example I can think of that I have (ex-Marshall collection). Notice that while you get the denticles from the anvil and hammer dies, you do not see a "rim" crossing the coin. PCGS TrueView photos are here: https://www.PCGS.com/cert/37951192  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Posted 12/27/2021 9:14 pm
