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I have yet to be able to look up a definitive reason for the 1947 dot coins but the idea that there is a 1947 dot coin for most other denomination but not the 10 cent coins is a mystery. I would love to know the reason there is dots instead of maple leafs personally and weather or not it is an error or variety.  |
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If I remember correctly, the 1947 dots were because they were struck in 1948, as the 1948 dies adjusted for India's independence had not arrived yet. This is why some of the 1948 coins had relatively low mintage numbers (late arrival)
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have never seen this type of 1947 Dot on any 47 coins.
on the $ there is, IMO, only a dot on some, but not all, pointed 7's
The ML was done with a purpose: to indicate that it was struck in 1948 and actually should be 1948.
But the dots? Have no idea.
why are there very few 1936 cents and dimes and quarters with a dot? I have no idea...
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The 1936 dot coins are a whole different story, not comparable to the 1947 dot coins. We're the 1947 dot coins meant to be a maple leaf or a dot?;I have not researched the topic much, I know about the maple leaf 1947 history but not why there was a dot on others.
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1947 dots are due to die pitting...there is NO SIGNIFICANCE behind the dots..many dies had pitting in the 40s and these just happened to become popular. The dollar is the only cool dot coin as the dot on the die does indicate it was struck with an out of service Specimen die.
The 47ML coins were indeed struck in 48.
The 1936 dots were struck to indicate a similar situation to the 1947ML issues and did indeed have reasoning behind them
Feel free to call me Will.
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I believe the 1936 dots were struck in the precaution that the succession problems meant that dies would not arrive in time for the new monarch coins to be minted for 1937 (Edward's abdication and George VI ascension {dec 11 1936}
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ML, that is what I should have been thinking, but did not know the dots were not intentional. Time to reread haxby.
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A neatly placed die chip and only in Canada do you have
a premium placed on a coin .
The 1947 Dot Nickel actually has 3 DOTS
The Quarter and the Pointed 7 Dollar could never figure the
Hype . But hey once they are listed on Charlton , bingo !
The OP Ten Cent is just as legit as any other 47 "DOT"
coinage . That said none of the 47 Dot coinage is a real error or variety
In the truest sense of the word . Same goes for the 1956 DOT 10 Cents .
Just another die chip that got listed in Charlton only due to the efforts
of one influential Canadian Dealer ( Ray Hobin ) who just happened to have a bag full !
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So the 1947 dot coinage had nothing to do with the maple leaf variety, the dots all just happened to be where the maple leafs were placed on each denominations? That's pretty coincidental. A lot of studying must be done to see the different areas the maple leafs are and dots to see if they match up. I don't know much about the 47 dot coins but I always assumed they had to due with the maple leafs being added to the dies, not a die chip. So all the 47 dot coins are die chips is what you are saying pacificoin?
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You got it ! Die chip and nothing else . Certainly
Not official issues .
Also as stated earlier the 1947 Ptd 7
Dot dollar occurs on one reverse die
that was used first for Specimen Coinage .
1947 Maple Leaf coins are official and were
Issued and were struck in 1948 .
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All this talk about 'dots'... reminds me of a collector from Alberta who loved his dot coins!!  Canada has a history of serendipitous die chips, especially with their proximity to the dates. 1956 10c, 1958 50c are good examples. Or the 1964 dollar missing a dot! Even the lowly 1964 1c with dot commands a considerable premium, and I cannot understand why (Zoell ZB88q).  "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I personally have not started any date sets for these years on any denominations other then cent coins so I have not researched them much. So all 1947 dot coins had nothing to due with grease filling the maple leafs or anything. So out of curiosity, if these dots are all die chips then they would only occur on the 1947 non maple leafs variety? Or is there 1947 ML coins with a dot on them as well near the date(or die chips directly on the maple leafs)?
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You can find dots (die chips ) on numerous classic Canadian
Coins . SPP gave a few more examples above .
Another is the 1966 DOT Silver Dollar . There are hundreds more .
Do not confuse the 1947 Coinage struck in 1947
with the 1947 Maple Leaf coinage all struck in 1948 .
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12/30/2021 4:41 pm
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This dot coin the dot is in the wrong place for ML should be lower by the 7
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I'm not confusing the two, I'm aware the ML variety was struck in 1948. As well I'm aware of dots(die chips on many other years) but the ML next to the date in 47 is special and only on the 47(technically 48 coinage) so there is no difference between the 47 and 48 die other then the maple leaf? Everywhere I look this question is speculation with no sure answer. So all 1947 dot coins were coins struck in 1947 but happened to have a dot next to the date(date being in different positions for different denominations) but the dot was always next to the date on all denominations. So the guess here is the dots have nothing to do with the 1948 ML version, rather they are just a series of coincidental die chips right next to the date where the maple leafs would be for 4-5 different denominations?
Based on the size of the maple leafs and the position it would be more likely that every maple leaf at some point got clogged with grease rather then ever year coincidentally having a die chip in the same spot.
I guess my main question is what evidence supports all 1947 dot coinage was a coincidental die chip and was minted in 1947 rather then a more likely filled device on a maple leafs struck in 48.
Is there a definitive answer to this question or is it all speculation and guesses?
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12/30/2021 4:53 pm
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