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Valued Member
United States
317 Posts |
Found this very nice AU 1920 clipped Wheat cent. My first one.    *** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! *** |
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Valued Member
United States
255 Posts |
I don't see anything resembling the blakesly effect on this coin, I think the clip is not legit. Just my humble opinion though.
Edited by Yorkish
12/27/2021 10:18 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
6244 Posts |
Could be possible to take side photo?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1998 Posts |
I don't see any tapering near the rim, metal flow along the clip or blakesley effect opposite the clip. I don't think this is a genuine clip. PMD in my opinion Edited by lawest
12/28/2021 12:11 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Me I look for three factors for clip coins versus fake:
1. Blakesley effect
2. Fishtailing and Radial Metal Flow
3. Strike Weakness
On this coin I do not see any of this markers.
I ask side photo to confirm the fake procedure, and also for education purpose to show the sides angles of the clip.
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Valued Member
 United States
317 Posts |
Thanks guys I wasnt aware of any of those signs... can anyone of you guys show a diagram of the signs you guys are talking about? I would truly appreciate it.
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Valued Member
United States
317 Posts |
Here are a couple pictures of it helps I took a picture while the obverse was facing away from the camera than another while the reverse was facing away from the camera   |
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Moderator
 United States
56855 Posts |
Where did you find it? John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
6244 Posts |
The first marker Blakesley effect is easy to find on the net.
the others also but is only for evaluation.
The side photo show not a genuine clip. Sorry.
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
251 Posts |
I'm not sure it would grade as AU either, come to think of it...there's very definite wear showing.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1998 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
19164 Posts |
Agree with the discourse above.
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Moderator
United States
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Ok here is what I see: This is Not a valid clip from the mint As you can By the image I put up where the arrows indicate, it would appear that the coin tilted as the cut was initiated, in a clip created by the mint during the creation of the blank you would not see this 'angling' at the corners, it will be bent or turned down towards the center of the blank. Then when the blank is sent through the upsetting stage to create the proto rim, you should see a weakness on the opposite side of the 'clip' (Blakesley effect) [do a search for this term].  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7512 Posts |
It does not look like a genuine clip, uneven cut and as mentioned: no blakesley effect   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Keep in mind that the Blakesley isn't always present on large clips. I agree with everyone and believe this is damage.
Edited by Jim0815
12/28/2021 10:06 am
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Valued Member
United States
317 Posts |
Thank you guys so very much.
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