Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1859 Dp9 #4 With Improper I.d.

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 10 / Views: 1,103Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  08:38 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I contacted this seller yesterday by email informing them of a wrong I.D. on this coin and gave him the Haxby numbers of the DP9 #4 and the coin he is trying to sell as a #4.
I never got a response from them and the coin is still up.

That is why I'm posting this Buyer be ware its not a DP9 #4 coin.
ebay #255307397468
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Canada
5589 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which variety or Charlton # do you think it is, Jim? I know that the D/C usually there isn't there.
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is Haxby PC59-22, the DP9 #4 is Haxby PC59-46 the 9's are very similar but the #4 you have to have look at the 5 and leaf 7 the die crack for the DP #4 is on the upper part of the leaf not the bottom of the leaf.

I don't think it was added to the 65th Edition
Edited by papeldog
01/05/2022 10:11 am
Pillar of the Community
1960NYGiants's Avatar
United States
667 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  10:14 am  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Jim.
LM of RCNA
Member of CATC
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Canada
5589 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I do as well. I have a '59 just like the questioned coin that I had initially put it down as a DP#4, but then erased the note on the holder. I just have it as a nice DP with good offset. Mine has a dc in a different spot as well like p 283. I have 4 other DP#4's and the coin in question is somewhat close, but no cigar.
Edited by okiecoiner
01/05/2022 10:26 am
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the coin the seller is trying to sell as a DP9 #4 its an easy coin to mistake the I.D. of, even the grading Companies get it wrong. I relabeled mine as a PC59-22, PCGS labeled it as a T1 that is wrong also.

I use the DP #2 for a guide line for value of any 1859 DP9 coin that didn't make the front of the Charlton coin book.

1859-Dp9-#4-With-Improper-I.d.
1859-Dp9-#4-With-Improper-I.d.
1859-Dp9-#4-With-Improper-I.d.

This is the #4

1859-Dp9-#4-With-Improper-I.d.
1859-Dp9-#4-With-Improper-I.d.
1859-Dp9-#4-With-Improper-I.d.
Edited by papeldog
01/05/2022 11:00 am
Pillar of the Community
Phil310's Avatar
United States
1101 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure Bill is correct that this coin is on page 283 in the 2011 Charlton.
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do agree with Bill and Phil310 the coin on page 282 of the 65th edition is the coin in question. I believe the coin in the book is in state 1
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Canada
5589 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, my coin (I have 2) just like the OP's and the one that PCGS labeled T1 I have just labeled as "p 283" that is Haxby's 22. I think that this one is almost as tough to find as a real DP-5, especially those struck early where you have well-offset underpunch on the bottom and a nice offset under the upper loop. I'm sure that the seller will argue with you. Just tell him to compare the D/C types at leaf 7 on both the good and his coin.
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the tell tail markers are leaf 7 and the 5 on #4 is slightly doubled on the upper part of the curve on the 5 tells the story of the Variety it is?
Edited by papeldog
01/05/2022 11:14 am
Pillar of the Community
papeldog's Avatar
Canada
1923 Posts
 Posted 01/05/2022  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great news.
I was contacted by the seller he sounds like a solid guy, said he would up date the e Bay listing later today. He thanked me for the alerting him and the introduction of Haxby numbers and site. I also mentioned that the coin he listed was a sought after coin just that the I.D. was wrong for coin.

Happy Hunting
  Previous TopicReplies: 10 / Views: 1,103Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.43 seconds to rattle this change. Forums