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Ellis Island 2017 Quarter I Think It's An Error But Again I'm New

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I found this Ellis Island quarter that appears to have an error on the elbow and an error on the top of the man's hat. The one on the hat is hard to see but it's it's raised and pointed. Sorry the picture is not great I have a microscope coming the next couple days but I just really wanted to find out about this one. Thank you in advance for anyone that can help.
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. Die chips?
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Like I said I'm new. a die chip would be like an indentation? this is all raised. Still learning all the terminology I just started I found a lot of cool things.
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Please always show us both sides of your coins, and good closeups of where you see issues. Thanks.

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Die chips,die cracks would look raised on the coin.http://www.error-ref.com/
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So they're both raised so what is it called when there's an actual crack on the coin not damage but a crack that runs underneath lettering?
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When there's a crack on the coin that is raised from the surface, it is the result of a die crack.

The raised metal on the elbow is a result of a chip of metal breaking off of the die.

Both the chip off the die and the die crack are in said to be in recess on the die. The resulting raised metal on the coin, including the coin's design elements, are said to be in relief.
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Thank you so much for clearing that for me I did not know. I bought the Red Book but it doesn't give you a whole lot of information on errors and die cracks I'm just starting to read it. So does the die cracks make the coin worth more?
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You're welcome,


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So does the die cracks make the coin worth more?

Price guides generally don't quote prices for coins with die cracks, so it's hard to say whether they are worth more.

They do make the coins more desirable to some who collect coins with die cracks and other similar defects, however. Someone likely would pay a small premium over face value for an otherwise common modern coin with die cracks or chips.
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At the speed of 720 coins struck a minute by each press at the Mint, it is normal that Die cracks will be due to the aging of the dies. Except for very majors ones, maybe someone who is hunger to have one will pay some premium. In contrast with the price, it is nice to build a diversified collection of those cracks if you like 'it.
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Thanks for the insight everyone. I'm enjoying doing the coin searching, it's relaxing.
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Die chips on the elbow and hat. On the Arm and finger, that is Machine Doubling. So a die event and a striking event. Probably the letters on the outside ring on the reverse will also be showing some extreme Machine Doubling as well. No premium for either events.
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Die chips.
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