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Since the lettering there is incuse, that's a small die break. Neat find, I haven't seen one there.
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Thanks Tanman2001. Took me a little while to figure it out. I appreciate the confirmation. How about the doubling on the nostrils? Md?
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Thanks jacrispies. There's some over abrasion on the mouth also. I just noticed it  |
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Questions for those who use this term Feeder Finger more and more in the last time.
Where are located the old stile Mint Line feeder fingers on the New Mint Line. On Phil the line has B-Ball Feeder?
May I can an explanation please?, maybe I miss something.
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Thanks silviosi. I'm unaware of a new style feeder. What year was the the b-ball feeder put on service? Pre-2020? Anyways it's good to have up to date info on minting processes. No more feeder finger at Philadelphia
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Ya, I was going to mention the feeder finger marks under the chin. and nice chip on the 'A'
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This it is my opinion base on what I seen in Phil in 2018 when the new line was install. Go to the mint website and a video is post there. If you do not fin let me know and I will log on to give you the link.
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01/06/2022 9:30 pm
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Thanks Dearborn and silviosi. Ive been watching some videos from different sources about the coin making process. They don't get overly technical which would be nice but not surprised because I'm sure they don't want to give the counterfeiters the upper hand. I would think it's rare to find a broken die as all the devices are incuse on most coins. With the ATBs the raised elements on the die increase the chances of breakage. This was a first for me
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I meant incuse on most dies. Usually dies get filled in and not broken off letters. Correct me if I'm wrong
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Since the lettering there is incuse, that's a small die break. Wouldn't a die break (die chip) be raised on the coin? John1  |
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Both John1 and RW1010 has reason.
John is right because the die by age can break and then the strike will be rise on that part.
RW1010 is right when say indirectly that with the new lines of production the chances of die brake is less, but not 100%.
My point. AND do not remember the metal is metal.
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This one is somewhat of a brain teaser. The A is raised on the die and incuse on the coin. When piece of the A broke off it would most likely be somewhat level with the fields of the die leaving a die break without a raised die chip. That's the part I'm also struggling with. That's why I mentioned maybe struck through. I don't know
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There are many things coins on with this coin. None have a premium though. 1. Incuse marks on the coin are mostly (if not all) contact marks from circulation. 2. Under the design there is Feeder Finger Damage. This is a die event. Often polished off the die. (On the die the devices are opposite the coin. Thus the bust is incuse on the die, raised on the coin. On the raised devices on the coin, they are incuse on the die. On the incuse devices on the coin, they are raised on the die. These are opposites. The fields are the outside of the dies:  Note the gutter on the outer, but lower edge of the die. That forms the rim on the coin when it is struck in the collar. The collar forms the outer edge of the coin, making the round and all the same size) 3. The devices on the outer ring of the reverse on the ATB Quarters are incuse marks. Machine Doubling on these will enlarge the devices. But no listings will be for a DDR on this area. The DDR's are on the central area of the designs. (Check the web sites to see what to look for on these, as they will all be different because of the different reverses) This is are is the wrong area to look for a doubled die. 4. The nose is showing either coin contact or Machine Doubling. As already mentioned, none of the happening are a premium for your coin. |
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Thanks coop. I'm just trying to figure out what I/we are looking at on the A in art. Die break, strike through or something else.
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