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1983 Three Errors In A Same Coin Is This Rare?

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1983-Three-Errors-In-A-Same-Coin-Is-This-Rare? die crack, misaligning, over polishing
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Yes it is rare but please explain the 3 errors on your coin.
All I see are a couple of common die cracks which are not considered errors.
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Yes, please be more specific.
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And please show us close-ups of the areas where you see these "errors".
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OK
I see at the bottom of your photos where you added what you think are errors.
Please put this information at the top so it won't get missed.
Die cracks and overpolishing are not considered errors.
The slight MAD would be a minor error.
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die crack, over polishing and misaligning if is not a error what we call?
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Good eye to spot all the stuff going on with this coin. Its unusual, no doubt. I think what you have here is a very late die state more than an error.

However, none of these issues are extreme or in particular demand. So in its circulated state, there isn't the kind of premium that's going to drive much of a $. It's the sort of thing you can put into a 2x2 in your album and share a story with, maybe if you have a network of other cherry pickers, you have something for low end trading.

Die cracks aren't really an error. Some folks consider them a variety. But the mint didn't make a mistake. The die just got old and formed a couple cracks, but they continued using it to get a little more production before putting a new one in.

Misaligned dies (MAD) such as this are minor and rather common. Ones that collectors take note of are off maybe 5-10% and start to run into lettering. This is just sort of within the mint's quality tolerance as they don't put the effort into MS70 on every die setup for circulation strikes. They have billions of pressings to achieve every year.

The ghostly appearance of Lincoln from the grease or over-polishing is interesting, especially with the bold lettering. I'm not expert enough to tell which it was. But the mint chose to use the die so I consider it more of a die state than an error.

"Errors" are more like off center, double strikes, broadstrikes, capped dies where something actually unintentional happened - It was a mistake.
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With the issues noted--die crack, misaligned die (minor in this case), and over polishing--your coin isn't terribly common, but not exceedingly rare either.

From the Heritage Auctions website:

Error -- A numismatic item that unintentionally varies from the norm. Overdates and overmintmarks are not considered errors since they were done intentionally. Other die-cutting "mistakes" are considered errors. Double[d] dies, planchet clips, and off-metal strikings are also considered errors.
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thanks everybody is good to know
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Misaligned dies as minor as this are within mint tolerances and are not considered errors. Die cracks are a type of die event, not an error either. Ditto for overpolishing. Something like this is pretty common. I'd put it in the category of "save it if you like it, but feel safe spending it if you want."
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Yep
I consider these minor and for me common.
I get several similar nearly every bank box. Many of them have 2, 3, and even 4 die cracks on the corners of the memorial. No so many over polished in the group.
They will sell for about $1 on ebay.
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