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Canada
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  This weighs 0.30 grams and has a diameter of 11 millimeters My LCS got this in a recent purchase, and while it is not something I would likely buy, it is interesting because I have never seen it, and have no idea if it is real.
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United States
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Looks real to me, I see the die problem at the bottom of the trefoil. These can be certified by PCGS #519177 The are fractional "so called" dollars. Here is a link to a recent high quality (MS64) one sold ($432.00)by Heritage Auctions: https://coins.ha.com/itm/western-so...ption-071515Same auction the 1/4 issue sold for the same $432.00 in MS66. Not especially rare but pretty neat and affordable. How much is the LCS asking for the one you showed?
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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 Canada
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@westcoin, the LCS has not assigned a price yet. I believe that their plan is to have it certified and then auctioned. There would be a very limited local interest here in my home town of Ottawa, Canada. I have looked at it and there seems to be some sort of residue on it which, they hope, will come off with acetone.
There is an interesting story as to it acquisition. The previous owner said that he found it about 40 years ago in an old purse that had been discarded. It was someplace not far from here.
How it got from the exposition to an old purse would be an interesting story.
Edited by oriole 01/29/2022 5:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My guess is probably belonged to someone that traveled to the expo then. Some more information I found on this little piece.
The token is cataloged as H-61-330 in the Hendershott reference on memorabilia from the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair.
The very small and very thin gold token is often found fully proof-like on both sides with deeply mirrored fields and frosty devices. The fields of the coin are filled with many die polish lines that show in the photos and which are completely original to the coin. The "Z" at the base for the fleur-de-lis obverse design is the initial of Farran Zerbe who privately minted and marketed these pieces at the 1904 St. Louis World's Fair. Zerbe, who would later serve as President of the American Numismatic Association, was also in charge of distributing the classic gold dollar commemoratives struck by the U.S. Mint in connection with the Expo.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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United States
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Lot's of great info on an obscure little piece . . 
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Appreciate west coin input on this token - I've never heard of such an example and have now learned a lot. 
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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@westcoin, that's a very interesting bit of information. Is there any indication what these tokens originally sold for? They have quite a bit less than 1/2 dollar worth of gold in them, closer to 20 cents.
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United States
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I believe they were valued at the amount on them, as mentioned they are incredibly thin, so back in 1904 the value wouldn't have been much different then the value stamped on them, They were for use at the Expo only though.
So this one shown would be a half dollar, with around .20 cents worth of gold in it, making Zerbe a fair profit.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9792 Posts |
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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