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1976 P Eisenhower Type 1 Error Believed To Be Foreign Object Damage; Opinions?

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 Posted 01/29/2022  3:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Thanus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone; first post here. I found the Coin Community Forum while researching the pictured coin.

In 1975 when teenager, I found this Eisenhower dollar in a sealed US mint bag of bicentennial Eisenhowers I got from a bank (I was visiting banks looking for the rarer Type 1 bicentennial Eisenhowers from Philadelphia), so I believe this to be an authentic error, unless the coin counting/bagging equipment caused this.

I used to think a metal object got caught between the obverse die and the planchet when the coin was minted, but on closer inspection I am wondering if the planchet may have sustained the damage when it was punched because I can faintly see the details of Eisenhower's head in the damaged area of the coin where metal is missing. It seems to me that if the object damage happened during the die strike, Eisenhower's details would be missing in the damaged area.

I also notice some double lettering in "In God We Trust" and "1776" looks slightly double struck. On the reverse "America" is double struck (really noticable in the last 3 letters).

What is your opinion as to what happened to this coin? Is there a way to determine its value, or is this a case where value is determined by what someone is willing to pay for the coin?

Thanks.
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 Posted 01/29/2022  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The doubling is Machine Doubling. With no damage to the reverse, it is a strike through. Maybe the object was softer than metal, like plastic. Then I think there would be enough force for the die to push through the plastic and impress the back of the head. Let's wait for others to chime in.
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No, that looks like a very interesting strike through to me, not damage. You can often make out the faint details of the die through the strike through because the die is typically significantly harder than whatever is being struck through. Not sure what the value would be on this, but this is a fantastic find. Errors on large dollar coins tend to be very desirable, especially bicentennials.

Edit: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that this is worth getting graded. This totally insignificant strike through sold for over $100 recently on ebay, and yours is orders of magnitudes better.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/203008357382

The only thing I would like to see first is some close ups of the affected area with the coin removed from the 2x2. The one thing I just want to check is that there are no abrasion marks, since this affect could be achieved with a dremmel or a similar tool.
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 Posted 01/29/2022  6:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll agree with MD and a strike through. it is strange that the back of the head did form that deep in the depression
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 Posted 01/29/2022  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thanus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you to those who replied so far; very helpful. Here are additional pictures without the coin holder. Including one of the coin's reed edge, which also sustained damage.
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Thank you, those pictures are perfect. I feel very confident saying this is a really fantastic strike through and I would guess probably worth having graded. I'm not much of a buyer/seller though, so maybe someone who knows the market better can advise you on whether or not it's worth doing that.
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Thank you Samcoin. I'll probably keep the coin, just was curious as to its value.

One thing though; this has rekindled my interest in coin collecting. I collected coins with a passion when I was a teenager, but forgot about it after that, but kept all the coins I collected. And in the back of my mind I have always wondered about the Eisenhower I found long ago and on a whim, yesterday decided to look at it and try to figure out what happened to it. Now that I am retired, I have been looking for a hobby and coin collecting may just be it.
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That is a fantastic strikethrough! Nice find!!
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The edge tells me it is a mint error. I agree with the struck through theory, but adding, The struck through may have collapsed during the strike. Thus the hint of the push out on the reverse, but not enough to expose the push out fully. Looks like a deep incuse because of the light/shadows on the affected area. Or it may caused the MD on the devices. It all is strike related. Normal die. Not a DDR. Very nice find.
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@Thanus glad to help, and hope you do decide to stick with the hobby! Grading is of course completely optional, but it can be a nice way to display and protect the coin even if you don't want to sell it (which, I agree, definitely don't. The money would never make up for the sentimental value of finding it). Either way though, fantastic find and thank you for sharing!
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Thank you for your comments Coop. After you pointed out on the reverse the slight outlining of the strike through, I can see it on the coin.

I now notice that the lunar craters are machine doubled, displaced to the southeast, like the lettering along the top rim of the coin.

Looking at the reed edge, it looks as if one face of the coin was rotated a couple of degrees due to the lateral forces caused by whatever got caught between the die and planchet during the die strike.

I agree that this error is genuine, in addition to the nature of the error, because I found it in a (most likely machine) sewn shut cloth mint bag of brand new uncirculated bicentennial Ikes from the Philadelphia Mint. If someone else saw this coin before I did, I am sure I would have never found it!
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That is a great find and if it was me,I would send it to PCGS. At the very least,an Air-Tite capsule.
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That's an incredible find, congrats!
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Cool find . .

BTW . . Coins are a great retirement activity
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