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Maybe I'm A Fool, But Have A '89d Penny Silver, Pronounced Rim?

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Ok I've uploaded a couple more pics with a 1990 penny for reference, only way I knew to do it was to go back and edit original post, so they're back at the top with the other pics
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wow, very nice pictures. Still think it is a bezel around it.

When you are typing to post a new reply, you are doing it in the 'Quick Reply' dialog box - look at the blue bar above - it states 'quick reply'
Now just below this box you type in there are 4 radio buttons. One you use to 'submit reply' 'preview' 'switch to full reply' and 'add pictures' Click on either switch to full reply or add pictures.
You will then see new option for posting, one is upload an image.
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I like very much the answers from "DEARBORN" and "COOP" which are very logics and pointed, with small contradictions. At the end of the post I will answer you CCB for your behavior.

IMO: It is an 1989 when the mint use the mechanical cut for planchets furnished by subcontracts. Some times do to the process of coating, the go to fast which result in poor adherence to the main planchet roll. The rolls was cut at the mint mechanical in that time, and in some cases we see some differences in cut from the hammer cutter which result in a tiny layout of coating been up-side down. During the process of rim (I do not go in technical terms) this tiny coating layout will bend down and the will be struck.

This effect was see before, except that never was the both sides, which physically it is almost impossible. The photos show the extra layout it is not glued to the planchet.

The question it is : It is legitim coin or one of the try from some sources to fake the Mint process. Laboratory test are impose to determine the legality of the bending layout.

NOW CCB: If you ask someone of his opinion you do not impose yours rule of answer you want in any matter it is. If you are sceptic of the answers or you do not believe it is you own opinion not our in the forum. Sorry I didn't intervein till I do not saw this behavior. Who answer you are very rusty peoples who deal with those coins on daily basis and study same time also. So please keep reticent and touch feeling comment for you, will be better.

Hope my answer give you a new light.
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 Posted 01/30/2022  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry, really not trying to be rude or anything, but which behavior are we talking about? I did not understand much, if any, of the part addressed to me personally, unless we're talking about the robot comment from last night
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Do not worry about. Some propose for others answers from before you post this can heart someone.

The point it is your coin here. what it is your feel for? This it is 1989, two years after Mint up-grade the Line.
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Didn't realize I fell for anything, was just trying to find out what was wrong with this penny, if its something that happened after the fact, and if it was worth anything. Don't remember disagreeing with anyone's opinion on it, just looking for some insight about it
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However I'm trying to figure out exactly what you were saying in the part addressed to everyone. So are u saying this could be a legit coin that could have some value, or a counterfeit and only lab test can determine which?
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Exact. The processes of the Mint can produce this effect. The replicas places, use everything to come to the perfection. so the Lab determine if the overbend material it is legitim or not.

Now the problem it is the value, which it is not my expertise. A Lab test at half, could cost around 150 bucks. The question it is if the coin is real and in this case will be an Mint error, how much value has totally to cover the test, certify, pay the good auctions houses premium?. I have no idea of the coin value, just of the way it is.
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I just don't see how this could happen at the mint.

If this was caused by an issue in the plating or blanking process, why does the extra metal around the edge go over the letters, over the strike? This must have happened post-strike, and there's nothing at the mint post-strike that could do this.

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Wright point TAN. What I see from the photos: the extra metal was strike. I the past some coins was find like this due to the age of the blanking. This tinny metal will blend over in the milling processes and then been strike. Will never glue to the planchet. Tis a reason that today the Mint test other most precise process of cut the blanks. Was far to much waist.
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You are correct, CCB420, you have to be vewwy careful whom you trust; even major dealers in the 'bullion market'.
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So are you saying even on this forum? Should I not use a fellow member's status, to determine their knowledge on matters, even here? Can someone become a "pillar" or "bedrock" member, just by posting a cpl thousand times, even if it's complete pou-pou?
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Again I hope I'm not insulting anyone, that is not my intention, just so many opinions, on just my 2nd post? And I will admit, once again, the consumption of adult beverages has been underway, but being from Louisiana, think I get a cultural pass
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