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On Friday, January 28th, 2022, I saw this coin in a 100 ruble bargain bin, realized that it was something I've been trying to find for many years, and immediately bought it. Here's a small puzzler for the people of CCF: can you guess what exactly it was that I was looking for? (I thought this was easy, but I've posted it in multiple places on Discord, and only received one correct answer so far - from @Grinya.)   Hint: there's a reason I oriented the pictures the way I did - particularly the first one! @gxseries - this should hopefully be right up your alley. @Grinya - please no spoilers! |
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I know that these early Russian coppers were often overstruck on previous coins, whenever they changed the weight system. So I'm guessing it's a scarce undertype/overstrike combination?
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It's 1727 5 kopek. It can be a bit dear even as a filler piece. This is my example  The rotation is interesting My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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It's 1727 5 kopek. It can be a bit dear even as a filler piece. "1727 5 kopek" (sometimes with specific details of which particular variety) was the consistent incorrect answer I got. Though I do have to admit that I might have bought it for the clear variety anyway! But that wasn't the main draw. |
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It looks like a Fouree - a layered counterfeit with the upper layer corroded away exposing the corroded surface below.
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It looks like a Fouree - a layered counterfeit with the upper layer corroded away exposing the corroded surface below. I can see where you're coming from! Unfortunately that's (hopefully) not it. I think so far Sap's answer is probably the closest to what I had in mind. |
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Less of a hint and more of an interesting observation: as far as I can tell, my oldest CCF post mentioning that I was looking for this dates back to April 2012.
@Lembafc - not as far as I can tell, but interesting guess!
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Orienting the first photo that way makes it look like Saint Andrew's cross.  And it looks like there are remnants of a legend around the rim. Overstrike on a Brunswick coin? Edited by tdziemia
02/02/2022 4:46 pm
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The coin appears to be another type of metal, silver? But what do I know.
I second give up after ijn1944.
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I give up. ...I legitimately expected this to be a lot easier. If there's no good guesses in a few more hours I'll give a larger hint. EDIT: @macmercury - as far as I can tell this is copper, as expected. The bright color is a trick of the lighting. Edited by january1may
02/02/2022 4:28 pm
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All I can guess is as you dropped the hint is the orientation of the coin. It would be classified as die rotation error but there are a few known for this series. This is an example  My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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It would be classified as die rotation error If there's any die rotation (and there might be) I hadn't noticed it. So far Sap's initial response is still the closest, ironically enough. |
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I failed to see the wings. It's overstruck A similar type as shown  My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month. |
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It's overstruck
A similar type as shown   At this point it's probably easy to guess what exactly I've been looking for, but aside from that, effectively yes, that's the correct answer. |
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