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1980 10 Cents. Grease Filled Die, Possible Weak Strike Or PMD?

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Normally I'd be able to call it but this one has me a bit stumped. My scale seems to have been hidden by my son but I'll get the weight eventually lol. What do the experts think?




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Trying to get used to my new phone camera so too two sets of pictures.
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This was a Randome bank roll find but didn't stand out to me in any way as PMD. Any opinions are welcome.
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Weight?
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Still haven't managed to find my scale. My son's really good at hiding stuff lol. When I find it I'll post the weight.
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Maybe a Dryer Coin that was found earlier than normal?
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Maybe a Dryer Coin that was found earlier than normal?


I had thought about that, I'm not sure a Dryer Coin would cause so much wear just on cents without causing much more wear to the rest of the devices. and the obverse seems basically unaffected except for the highest point in the portrait. I don't have any experience judging Dryer Coins though. If it is PMD though I would say Dryer Coin is a good guess.

I'm not sure if this PMD though with how uneven the wear is and so focused on just cents and the outer fields and rim and only on the reverse. Does anyone know what it would look like if it was a weak strike or a thin planchet?
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Here is a photo of the edge in comparison to another dime. The thin one is the 1980, I couldn't find abother 1980 but the thicker dime is a 1979. The reeded edge on the possible error coin is fully in tact and not worn down as iv seen with other Dryer Coins.

It's noticably thinner then this 1979


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Any chance this is struck on a wrong planchet?
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Quick check with a magnet would answer that.

From what I see, I am leaning towards post-mint damage.
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Definately magnetic. I'm not sure why it would be so thin but only be missing a detail in one spot on the coin. And the rim on one part. SPP you thinking Dryer Coin as well? It just doesn't add up to me lol
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Not a Dryer Coin.
It would have thicker rims not thinner ones if it was.
Also the diameter would be smaller.
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Not sure what kind of PMD would cause such a drastic change in thickness without having any effect of the obverse while causing such a weak rim and loss of partial devices, also while not causing any effect to the reeded edge and diameter. All that said I'm also not sure what kind of error could cause this. I know there are thousands of things that people do to coins to cause fake errors but I just can't imagine what would have this effect.

Anyone have suggested tests I could do? I'm at work now but can continue looking for me scale when I get home tonight. I imagine with how thin it is it will be under Weight. Cents is not completely gone, there is a vague outline of cents left.



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Were there any foreign magnetic coins struck at the mint with the same diameter as a dime? Or would you experts think there is nothing that can happen at the mint to cause this? Iv been scratching my head about this so much my scalp is raw lol.


Edit: maybe the specs for the 1979 and 1980 dimes are different? Are the 1980 dimes normally thinner then the 79?
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Waiting for a weight.
If you can't locate your scale maybe the local PO will help.
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I'm thinking PMD, possibly from a buffing wheel..
If you do not use paste when buffing, it will wear the surface down.
( I know from experience on chrome parts)
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With how thin it is I imagine if it was buffed down there would be much more loss of the design wouldn't there be? It looks about 30% thinner then the 1979 I measured it up to. But if there is a nothing during the minting process the as t could cause this then the only explanation would be some sort of PMD, which seems to be the consensus here.

So is the for sure PMD of some kind then? No error could cause this? Or should I still get the weight?
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With the reverse showing much more wear, it could be something like a lost coin in a car"s cup holder and result of 20 years driving motion or whatever. If you get the weight could match to a foreign planchet but this is one sided wear and like I said before there are very few dime collectors. Since the dime is thinner, anyone with a jewelers buff wheel could create this effect
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