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Is This A Speciman Dime In A PL Pliofilm Package?

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 Posted 02/11/2022  3:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mgalb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Going through all the coins we found in deceased father-in-laws home and when I looked at 1969 sets I noticed the dime is frosted on water and boat with a shiny field. The other set does not have that. It is all shiny. The frosty one is magnetic.
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 Posted 02/11/2022  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not Specimen.
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Cameo (frosted) PL coins of this are not uncommon.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 02/11/2022  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mgalb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why is one frosted and the other not? Did they mix the finishes in these pliofilm sets back in 1969? Kind of hard to see with the pic, but one is definately frosted while the other is not.
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The first coins struck by the dies were frosted, the etched recessed portions of the die became polished by the striking action so subsequent coins had a brilliant finish.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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While I can't speak to why a certain date is frosted in Canadian coinage, (not my area of expertise) I can tell you how and why a proof or specimen coin gets frosted.

It is from the die being polished a certain way. the lower incuse recesses are not polished but often sandblasted, these are the higher points on the coin (opposite from the die) and the flat surface area is polished to a high shiny mirror surface. This is what leaves the frosty cameo look,which I particularly like on my proof coins from the USA. After so many strikings, the frost begins to fade, hence why there are various levels in the grading of the look, semi-prooflike, cameo, and deep cameo or ultra cameo (depending on the grading service). Proof coin are also using a specially prepared planchet (coin blank) usually washed and tumbled in steel bearing and oil to prevent corrosion and to help polish the blank previous to striking. Then the actual striking is often at a much higher tonnage and often struck multiple times to help build up the relief and make the strike stand out more than say coins struck for normal commerce.

In USA Proof sets you can often find a mix of frosted and just plain brilliant proof coins in the same package. It all depends on what the coins are like that come down the line at assembly time. Some years are known for all being well frosted while others are pretty difficult to find in a cameo or frosted look. Often in the much older (1800's era) coinage the normal strikes and also exhibit the frosted look and be quite deceiving as to whether or not they are proofs or regular business strikes. We see this on a lot of the Seated coinage in the USA from 1840's to 1890's.
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So this is not an error on the part of the mint then. thanks for your help. I was able to find what looks like a strike through a thread and what may be doubling on the set without this finish.
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